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🗓️ 20 October 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the New York Times Popcast, those dream and eyes of mine of music, news, and criticism. |
| 0:09.7 | I'm John Caramanico. |
| 0:14.6 | It's not that important, but I'm on vacation this week. |
| 0:17.4 | Not really on vacation. |
| 0:18.5 | I'm just in my house. |
| 0:20.7 | And DiAngelo passed away this week. |
| 0:24.2 | And that is a person who it is worth coming off vacation to talk about. |
| 0:31.6 | DeAngelo died at 51 earlier this week. |
| 0:35.7 | I'm certain that you're familiar with his oove. |
| 0:38.8 | At the beginning of the show, |
| 0:40.2 | you're listening to Brown Sugar. |
| 0:43.0 | This is the title track of DeAngelo's first album from 1995. |
| 0:46.8 | DeAngela released three albums in his lifetime. |
| 0:48.9 | He released Brown Sugar. |
| 0:50.3 | He released Voodoo in 2000. |
| 0:52.5 | Black Messiah in 2014. |
| 1:06.6 | Three singular albums that are, to my mind, all masterpieces, but that function in different ways, even if the sort of underlying gifts are the same. |
| 1:22.1 | DeAngelo arrived at a moment in the mid-90s when hip-hop and by extension, R&B, because R&B was really in concert with hip-hop by the time his first album came out, were at an intense period of glamour and glitz and shininess. |
| 1:37.8 | And it's hard to overstate how striking it was to hear brown sugar and to understand that he was a person who had absorbed all the same music, all the same reference points, was living the same life, and had come to a completely different proposition. |
| 1:58.0 | A few years later, when voodoo arrived, that is the product of intense labor and study from DiAngelo, as much a historian and preservationist as a musician, made in concert with Questlove and is sort of in proximity and in collaboration with the collective that would come to be known as the Salkyrians. |
| 2:03.8 | DeAngelo had a huge success on that album with a song called Untitled. You certainly know the video in which DeAngelo is singing largely unclothed, and that song |
| 2:11.7 | became so successful and so defined his public image that it began to destabilize his work and became a |
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