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Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

Remembering Barney Frank

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

NPR

Society & Culture

4.72.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2026

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Barney Frank died earlier this year at the age of 86. He served in Congress for 32 years, representing Massachusetts’ 4th district. In December of 2015, Frank joined us at a live show in Boston to chat about a book he had written called Frank: A Life in Politics from the Great Society to Same-Sex Marriage. He also talked with us about his early political career, why he felt his public service was incompatible with his private life, and more.

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Bullseye with Jesse Thorn is a production of Maximum Fun.org and is distributed by NPR.

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It's Bullseye. I'm Jesse Thorne. Earlier this year, Barney Frank died. He was 86. Frank served in Congress for 32 years,

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representing Massachusetts' fourth district. Between 2007 and 2011, he chaired the House Financial Services Committee.

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If you remember your recent history,

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well, you would be hard pressed to find a more consequential time to be overseeing finance policy in the United States. Of the hundreds of pieces of policy Barney Frank drafted proposed and

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voted on, his signature might be the Dodd-Frank Act, which regulated financial institutions in the wake of the 2008

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financial crisis. Barney Frank was a policy walk. He was also a great public speaker, genuinely funny.

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He's certainly the funniest politician that I've known in my time. Definitely, if you loved him, a sort of lovable grump.

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He was also a trailblazer.

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He was the first member of Congress to voluntarily come out as gay.

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In 2015, we took Bullseye on the road.

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We did a live show in Boston, specifically in Cambridge,

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and Barney Frank was kind

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enough to join me on the stage.

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He'd just recently retired from Congress, and he'd written a book, Frank, a life in politics

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from the great society to same-sex marriage.

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He showed up backstage, by himself, in a frumpy suit, sat down, looked at me, said,

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oh, I'm in the right place, right? What am I going on? And then took out a book and read it

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frowning until he came on the stage and was amazing. Let's listen back to my conversation

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with the late Barney Frank.

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All right, sir.

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Well, thank you.

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