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Masters of Scale

Remarkable People: David Chang is 'Steve Jobs with a knife"

Masters of Scale

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Entrepreneurship, Business, Management, Reid Hoffman, Mindset, Diversity & Inclusion, Jeff Berman, Bob Safian, Startups

4.64.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

What happens when a world-class chef learns that success doesn’t taste like he imagined?

David Chang—the culinary force behind Momofuku and author of Eat a Peach—joins Guy Kawasaki to talk about ambition, burnout, scaling the unscalable, and learning to trade Michelin stars for family time. From plumbing disasters to poetic revelations, Chang opens up about the messy, beautiful art of creating something worth tasting.

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0:00.0

If you're a Y-combinator founder hitting Series A, you could be hearing one phrase that keeps stalling big enterprise deals.

0:07.6

We love your product, but we need to see your SOC2 report to make sure our customer data is protected.

0:13.7

Compliance becomes a bottleneck.

0:15.9

But there's a shortcut, AWS.

0:18.7

AWS already maintains SOC2 compliance across more than 100 services, from Cloud Trail to

0:24.8

Security Hub, meaning instead of building it from scratch, you can inherit it and focus on

0:29.8

scaling.

0:30.7

It's the same playbook startups like Supabase and Substack used to unlock enterprise customers

0:35.6

fast.

0:37.0

Turn compliance from a roadblock into a competitive advantage.

0:40.9

Get up to $100,000 in AWS credits and a free SOC2 consult at Startups.

0:46.8

AWS.

0:49.7

AI agents can make your teams more productive, but if they aren't connected to other agents

0:53.8

or your data or your existing workflows, they can only take you so far.

0:58.2

Any business can add AI agents, but IBM connects your agents across your company to change how you do business.

1:05.2

Let's create smarter business, IBM.

1:09.8

Food at its very best is like nothing else.

1:13.0

It's something you can express.

1:16.3

It's a story.

1:17.6

It can be delicious.

1:19.0

And the absurd part of it is it's going to be in a toilet eight to ten hours later.

1:25.1

No.

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