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Hi, everyone, my name is Patrick Clubbick, and I'm editor at the video game publication remap.

I am excited to be partnering with Ludonaricom once again this year, and I'm even more delighted to be joined today by Ivy Road co-founder.

Davy Reiden, you might know from the Stanley Parable, The Beginners Guide, where this year's cozy team-making video game Wanderstop.

Today, we're going to be chatting about Davy's career making video games,

the role narrative plays in video games,

and wherever the conversation just might take us.

Davy, thank you so much for joining me today.

It's a pleasure to have you.

Hey, Patrick.

It's great to talk to you.

We were chatting before we started recording that I've known each other for a long

time, but I don't really remember when was the last time we actually got to catch up and,

and, uh, and chat. It has been, it has been a minute. I think, uh, we both kind of gotten

each other's orbit around the time that I had moved to San Francisco. You're, we're separated by about four, you're 36, right?

Yeah, yeah.

So I'm 40.

I moved out to San Francisco when I was 22.

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