Hey everybody, Chiras here with a quick promo before we start today's episode.

If you're a regular listener to Futurismo over these past few years,

you'll know that we've come a long way. In season one, I was an excitable

young reporter ready to take on the podcasting world from our nearby supply closet.

Now, well, I'm still a mostly excitable young reporter traveling across the globe to speak

with executives, take test drives, and record at all so you can better understand this revolution taking place.

But we want to get even better and bigger.

We're thinking about how we can revamp the show,

from the way we structure the season to the interviews we do

and the stories we tell. And I want to hear your input.

If you've got any thoughts or ideas or even criticisms about the future of Futurismo, email me personally at Futurismo at auto news.

Come. Hope to hear from y'all soon. Now on to the show. I'm in St. Louis. Oh, in St. Louis.

Yeah.

That's, I would like to hear a St Louis perspective if you're interested in saying.

This is a 2009 interview recorded by an audio producer named Joseph Kraus in Detroit, Michigan,

right outside the Michigan Central Station, a gorgeous train station that was once a beacon for the city,

but in recent decades has since fallen into disrepair.

First of all, let me introduce myself.

My name is Joe, I live in this building right here, this red three-story apartment.

Oh, really? And I'm doing a recording project just for a personal project.

Oh, I said, yeah. Is it okay to record you?

Yeah, that's okay, yeah.

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