This is a headgum podcast.

Okay, I'm trying again.

We're here on our podcast chaotic.

Or we have a guest today who is special to our hearts for several

reasons including that she is our boss yes and we love all of our guests the same.

Yes, and we do.

And it's such a shout out to all of our guests.

We expect no nepotism from our friends,

from our boss, from each other.

There have been like two things that have kind of come up as consistent questions so far.

And the first one I'll just tell you about now

and you can maybe have some time to ruminate on it.

Okay.

The podcast is called Gayotic.

We are so... The podcast is called Gaiotic.

We ourselves are not straight and we had a full episode where we were talking about moments in our past that either where we experienced the feeling of gay shame for

maybe one of the first times or an experience that was really gay but you maybe didn't realize it at the time and like looking back on it bend to like back him yeah yeah immediate

immediate association good reference.

What like you're saying like your response to that movie was good than you realized.

Well soccer is gay.

Soccer is gay. I think it's just like when you're a little kid and you're like yeah it's straight to to want to see them kiss.

Yeah. You doesn't make sense? Like you're like oh everybody is feeling the way that I feel and

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