We are Transformation Church, where we represent God to the lost and found for transformation in Christ.

Today's message is on release, where we are letting go of the things that hold us back and releasing every promise God has given us.

We hope this podcast blesses you and leads you to a transformed life.

Hey, T.C. Charles here.

Man, we're celebrating 20 years of ministry, four years with our pastor's Mike and Natalie.

And we thought it'd be really cool to sit down with pastors Mike and Natalie and our founding pastors, Bishop Gary and Debbie McIntosh,

and just hear about all God's done in 20 years and really what he stands ready to do and the fact that we are just getting started.

Now, some of you are thinking Transformation Church, I've just heard about Transformation Church, but there's actually a really amazing story of what God's been doing for a long time.

So, why don't you share just a little bit of that before Transformation Church?

Well, the thing we got to know as a church is that we stand on the shoulders of people who sowed and believed way before any of us were here.

In 1999, Bishop Gary McIntosh and pastor Debbie stepped out in faith, came to North Tulsa to start Greenwood Christian Center.

For 16 years, they pioneered, sowed, built this amazing ministry that they were then felt led to hand over to me and Natalie.

Four years ago, in February 1st, 2015, we became the senior leaders of the church in Charles.

The thing that I really realized is we weren't starting something new.

We were fulfilling something that had already been seen.

Well, it all started because he was traveling in ministry and I was home with the kids, and so I just thought I'm going to start a business.

So, I got in the car to drive to Texas. My kids were asleep, we were purposely went at night, so I could pray.

Right as I was getting into Dallas and I could see the skyline, I heard the Lord just so distinctly.

I want you to pray for your city.

I just took a deep breath and said, Lord, okay, and I called a friend of mine who was the prophet, and so we'd meet every morning and we'd get the Tulsa newspaper and we would just pray.

The front page of the paper. So we were just praying up a storm and then one day, the Lord said the second thing and that was about starting the church.

I had just come out of years and years of starting a church in pastoring. I was traveling on the road and having great success and enjoying it.

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