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Relationships 2.0: Why Did You Do That? + Your Questions Answered: Fred Luskin on Grudges

Hidden Brain

Hidden Brain Media

Arts, Science, Performing Arts, Social Sciences

4.640.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2025

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

As we go through life, we’re constantly trying to figure out what other people are thinking and feeling. Psychologist Liane Young says this ability to assess other people’s thoughts ​is an extraordinary feat of cognition. This week, in a favorite episode from our archives, we explore this mental superpower — and how it can lead us astray. Then, we welcome back researcher Fred Luskin, who responds to listeners' questions about grudges.

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0:00.0

This is Hidden Brain. I'm Shankar Vedantam. All parents have moments when their kids test their

0:06.1

patients. Lian Yang is no exception. I often yell at my kids for things that they did by

0:14.9

accident, like spilling a smoothie or leaving a cap off of a permanent marker and, you know, making black permanent

0:24.0

stains all over the sofa. When this happens and the couch is covered in black splotches

0:30.2

or their smoothie on the floor, the perpetrators inevitably offer this defense.

0:36.7

It was an accident.

0:38.6

It's not my fault.

0:40.7

I didn't mean to do it.

0:42.7

I shouldn't say this, but I tell them,

0:44.5

it doesn't matter that you didn't mean to do it.

0:46.6

What matters is that you won't do it again.

0:50.0

Leanne's reaction, while understandable, is deeply ironic.

0:54.5

She's a psychologist who studies how we read other people's intentions.

0:58.9

We need to think about other people's minds in order to figure out who our friends are,

1:03.2

who to avoid, whom to punish, whether to punish.

1:07.0

And we need to read people's intentions in any ordinary interaction, like having a conversation and figuring on what to say and how to respond.

1:19.0

As we go through life, we are constantly making sense of people's actions by interpreting their intentions.

1:27.7

Our ability to read what is happening in other people's minds

1:31.2

is like an invisible compass guiding us through life.

1:35.0

But sometimes it leads us astray.

1:39.5

We misread other people's intentions,

1:42.5

especially when we're angry or hurt.

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