Reinventing SETI (w/ John Gertz)

Somewhere in the Skies

Ryan Sprague

Unexplained, Unknown, Paranormal, Ufos, Government, Ufo, Social Sciences, History, Bigfoot, Aliens, Extraterrestrial, Documentary, Unsolved, Alien, Mystery, Uap, Science, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 27 July 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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We welcome John Gertz to the podcast. John is the former President of the Foundation for Investing in Research on SETI Science and Technology and former Chairman of the Board of the SETI Institute. We discuss his new book, Reinventing SETI: New Directions in the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence. We discuss the outdated SETI paradigms such as Fermi's Paradox, the Drake Equation, and METI, as John argues that scientists should approach the pursuit of extraterrestrials in a more effective manner. We also discuss what happens when we finally make contact on a global level and so much more.

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0:00.0	Hey guys, Ryan Sprague here, and I want to tell you all about an exciting event that I'm going to be speaking at in Hexham, England, on August 9th.
0:12.0	It's called Cosmic Frequencies.
0:15.0	Cosmic Frequencies is going to be an unforgettable evening of mind-expanding science, live cosmic funk music, and of course,
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1:37.7	and to purchase your tickets, visit Cosmicfrequencies.org. Once again, that's cosmic frequencies.org. And let's get funky.
1:50.2	Today on Somewhere in the Skies, we are joined by John Gertz to talk about his new book, Reinventing
1:59.7	SETI, New Directions in the Search for
2:02.5	Extraterrestrial Intelligence. John is a leader in the field of SETI, having served three terms
2:08.5	as chairman of the board of the SETI Institute. He currently serves as the only layman on the
2:13.9	Breakthrough Listen Advisory Board. He has published a number of peer-reviewed
2:17.9	theoretic papers on the subject of SETI.
2:20.8	Here is our interview with John Gertz.
2:26.7	You are now somewhere in the skies with your host, Ryan Spray.
2:30.8	You are now somewhere in the skies with your host, Ryan Spr brain. Ryan's brain. All right, guys, welcome to somewhere in the skies, and a welcome to first-time guest on the show today.
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