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Masters of Scale

Reid Hoffman on Trump vs Musk, Zuckerberg’s “superintelligence,” and the next wave of AI

Masters of Scale

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Entrepreneurship, Business, Management, Reid Hoffman, Mindset, Diversity & Inclusion, Jeff Berman, Bob Safian, Startups

4.64.4K Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Amid global conflict, domestic unrest, and AI’s surging impact in all corners of business, it’s getting harder than ever to decipher noise from substance. To help us navigate this challenge, Reid Hoffman returns to Rapid Response, sharing valuable insights about Trump’s public spat with Elon Musk, the crisis in the Middle East, and how his new AI healthcare startup functions in the age of RFK Jr. Plus, Hoffman assesses Meta and Apple’s recent strategy to compete with OpenAI, and whether AI is realistically poised to spark a “white collar bloodbath”.

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0:00.0

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Most American consumers don't realize how valuable the global market has been for them.

0:37.0

I spent a number of weeks in Europe traveling around,

0:40.9

doing conferences, and a number of people kind of talk to me saying, look, you know, we've really

0:45.7

liked having U.S. as a stable trade partner, but maybe China's a more stable trade partner

0:51.2

for us now. And I think that's fundamentally very bad for the U.S.

0:55.4

economy. That's Reid Hoffman, co-founder at LinkedIn, partner at Greylock, and founding host of

1:02.3

Masters of Scale. Today, Reid and I dig in about what's noise and what matters most in 2025's

1:08.9

fast-changing environment, from Trump and Musk's public spat to the

1:13.7

conflict between Israel and Iran, to whether AI will really lead to a, quote, white-collar bloodbath

1:19.7

and what Mark Zuckerberg means when he says MEDA is pursuing, quote, superintelligence.

1:25.0

There's much to get to, so let's jump in. I'm Bob Safian, and this is

1:30.4

Rapid Response. I'm Bob Safian. I'm here with Reid Hoffman, co-founder of LinkedIn, partner at

1:40.8

Greylock, founding host of Massage of and co-host of Podcast Possible.

1:46.1

Reid, great as always, to chat with you. Bob, it's great to see you. There is so much going on

1:52.2

in the economy and in tech right now. It's hard to know where to focus. How would you describe this

1:59.6

moment with so much change on so many fronts? Like, do you

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