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Welcome back to a mini-time show featuring Lenny, the only NFL podcast.

One of the hosts considers Elliot Wolf to be an ancestor.

That's Lenny.

Alameda Kimes.

Today, speaking of Elliot Wolf, we are doing our annual top 10 coaches and top five GMs.

Elliot Wolf is not one of them, spoiler.

But honestly, he's done pretty good lately. Ranking, and I am joined by my friend. He hasn't been on the show in quite some time, host to the ringer NFL show. Shilkabatia, welcome back to the show. Thanks for having me. It's fun going through all these coaches and GMs and being like, is there really a difference between some of these guys or did they luck into a great quarterback?

So I'm curious to see what you think about a lot of them.

Coach's list this year was agonizing for me.

I found it, you know, and I had to do some soul searching shield because, okay, so the

way we are doing this for those who have not listened to this before, the coaches, it's just like a pure power ranking. So it is not, who would you pick to win a game right now? Although I want to talk to you about that a little bit when we talk about my top three, it is not of all time. So it's just not like a legacy. It is we are literally trying to combine everything and just say,

these are the top 10 coaches in the NFL. Now, I looked at my list last, the last year and the year before, and one thing I realized was I skewed too much towards legacy. And I had two guys

who got fired in Tomlin and Harbaal, which isn't to say they're not good coaches, and I do think Harbaal will still be good. But I did feel after like reviewing the tape, so to speak, that maybe I was a little bit too nervous to pick some of the young guns, some of the offensive masterminds. How do you feel about that balance? Yeah, I feel like I looked at it like you hand me a team this year. You say, Sheal, you're the owner, you're the GM, whatever. What coach do you want? That's kind of good because those are the best coaches right now. Like you don't know who your quarterback is. You don't know what your roster is going to look like. You don't know who your GM is. Just who do you think gives you your, your goal is to win the most games this year because we could look at it

who's the best coach for the next five or 10 years like you said who has the best resume so

you try to combine it all i tried to take some swings let let let's see you know but i found there

were like seven or eight that i felt good about and then there was this next year where i'm like

hmm i don't

know who's going to make the cut for the last two or three here. So I texted you. We didn't

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