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Hello and welcome to the Daily Beans for Tuesday, December 26, 2023.

Very special Daily Beans. I have a couple of really great interviews for you today. First up

will be Phil Williams and that will be followed by Amy McGrath, both incredible interviews. I hope you

enjoy both of them.

Hey, everybody. I am really excited today to speak with investigative journalist at WTVF, News Channel 5 in Nashville. He's been at it for 25 years. You might have seen him mentioned on the John Oliver show. He's been talked about recently in The Guardian. They've talked about him on MSNBC. He's got, gosh, a Pulitzer, some Peabody's, four DuPont Awards, a Polk Award. He's the 2023 Columbia Journalism Schools recipient of the John Chancellor Award. Please welcome. Investigative journalist, Phil Williams. Hi, Phil. Hey, G. N. One correction. I don't have a Pulitzer. I was a Pulitzer

finalist. Ah, a Pulitzer. Well, it's an honor to be nominated, isn't it? He's an honor to be a

finalist, for sure. Thank you so much for joining me today. As I said in the intro, you have a long

career in journalism, particularly investigative

journalism.

And I wanted to ask you, what prompted you to get into this business?

Well, and actually, I've been in the business for almost, I guess, 35 years, if you look

at everything I've done.

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