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🗓️ 3 September 2017
⏱️ 59 minutes
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How does the church navigate the complex and often painful terrain of sexuality, identity, and public witness? In this candid and challenging episode of the Exile Series, Mike Erre and Andy reunite in-person to unpack the Nashville Statement—a public declaration from the Council for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood (CBMW) aimed at defining Christian responses to homosexuality and gender identity. Rather than a hot-take, this episode offers a deeply reflective critique on what this kind of theological statement represents, what it misses, and how it affects the real people the church is called to love.
The conversation explores the harm caused by boundary-focused definitions of orthodoxy, the danger of equating theological disagreement with spiritual disqualification, and the urgent need for humility, confession, and nuance in today’s cultural and church climate. Whether you’ve never heard of the Nashville Statement or have wrestled through its implications, this conversation is both pastoral and prophetic—offering an alternative way forward rooted in grace, conversation, and the shared pursuit of Jesus.
Key Takeaways:
• Statements vs. Pastoral Responsibility – Why theological declarations like the Nashville Statement can do more harm than good when they ignore the lived realities of LGBTQ+ individuals.
• The Dangers of Boundary-Marked Faith – Critiquing the tendency to turn theological positions into exclusionary markers of who’s “in” or “out” of the faith.
• Orthodoxy vs. Ethics – An exploration of how expanding orthodoxy to include ethical stances (like those on sexuality or gender) risks adding to the gospel and alienating faithful followers of Jesus.
• Repentance Before Proclamation – Naming the church’s historical and ongoing failure in relating to LGBTQ+ communities with love, humility, and repentance.
• Jesus and the Middle Way – Provoking reflection on how Jesus calls us beyond binary affirming/denying stances into a radical hospitality that centers His lordship and compassion.
Resources Mentioned:
• Nashville Statement
• Denver Statement (Progressive Counter)
• Wesley Hill – Washed and Waiting [Link]
• Podcast Episode: Jesus and the LGBTQ Community – A Nuanced Approach
• Center-Set Theology Explained – YouTube
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0:00.0 | Reunited and it feels so good. |
0:17.3 | Reunited because we understood. |
0:26.8 | There's one perfect fit and sugar this one is it we're both so excited because we're reunited hey hey ladies a gentleman uh you you you are not turned into a bad |
0:36.9 | a m station you have turned into the Vox |
0:39.7 | podcast that's right um with Andy and Mike in the same room. |
0:44.4 | Wow. |
0:45.9 | Andy has flown out to the great state of Ohio and uh, he's making his Filipino presence known |
0:52.9 | through socks and shirt combos that have no |
0:56.2 | business in the Midwest. |
0:58.8 | And so, you know, thanks to Mercedes, his wife and his family for letting him come out. |
1:06.1 | Number one. |
1:07.1 | But I just want to, I want to quote the first stanza of reunited. |
1:12.8 | I was saying the chorus. |
1:14.5 | I was a fool to ever leave your side. |
1:17.6 | Me minus you is such a lonely ride. |
1:20.7 | The breakup we had has made me lonesome and sad. |
1:24.3 | I realize I love you because I want you bad. |
1:26.2 | No. |
1:27.0 | Yeah. |
1:29.2 | Okay. So really just the first, first couple of lines. I didn't mean the rest. So my brothers and sisters, holy cow, we're in the same |
1:36.3 | room. Mandy has flown out to Ohio to set up the podcast stuff that he sent out in the minivan as we |
1:43.9 | drove across country and to set us up on Skype |
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