Welcome to the Heidi St. John Podcast. I'm glad you guys are here.

Yesterday I began an interview with my friend Phil Gunger.

Phil and his dad, Mark Gunger, have been cruising around the country now for about 20 years doing a seminar called

Laugh Your Way to a Better Marriage. The first time I ever heard it, I am telling

you what, I laugh myself silly. The reason I love it so much is because these guys are equal opportunity

pokers. In other words, this is a marriage conference that your husband will love. It's not a marriage conference that focuses on

singling anybody out I think what you're gonna see especially if you come out

the 16th and 17th the friendly planet and you join us here live for this event.

I think what you're going to see is these guys really understand the heart of marriage.

They understand God's heart for what makes a good marriage last and today we're

going to talk about some of those things.

We're going to touch on a lot of subjects today.

This is a fast moving conversation that I thoroughly enjoyed and so I hope you'll stick around

for part two of my interview with Phil Gungerer I think you're going to be encouraged.

What do you say to a guy who? What do you say to a guy who comes up to and says, you know, I, my wife is just, she says that I'm not,

she feels like she's not being helped around the house or she feels like I'm not

how how do you because there's a lot of men that listen to this right who I know that their wives are and I

realize that there's not like in you know here's a magic pill for your marriage and thank you for playing you know the Phil Ganger so have a great day.

I understand like we're all different and so we give you know these these are just generally true like

train up a child in the way he's she should go when when she's old she's not going to part this is a generalization it's not a promise right and so we're making generalizations but talk to the to the guy who's in the place with his wife right now and he's like I feel like my wife's bad during me I feel like my wife's you know she says this

and maybe she doesn't have the tools which is another reason why I'm so excited for you to come here and do your comedy weekend I think it's going to be great because you're gonna you're gonna soften them up with some humor and this damn right between the eyes I can't wait. I'm here for it man. That's awesome. Yeah yeah if he comes to me and that's and it's a common thing that you'll hear I will say this

sadly most the time the guy comes to me is when she's so sick of him she's like about to walk out

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