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going to just love. But let me welcome now, Scott Adams. Scott, I've actually, I'm actually

very grateful and excited to meet you.

Well, thank you. I'm pretty excited myself. Big fan.

I really enjoyed your, you know, the Trump book on Persuasion?

Obviously, you do. Win Bigley. Yeah, Win Biggley. Of course. I really enjoyed that book. I was fascinated by it. Of course, I suppose leadership is a remains a fascinating subject. I suppose because leadership and persuasion are the ability to, through charisma perhaps, or through other means, and perhaps you'll explain them to me, create realities that people were willingly or even unconsciously participate in.

Tell me what you think specifically Trump exemplifies.

In the book, you talk about him being sort of some like indigenous or native or a natural

genius when it comes to the art of persuasion.

What do you mean by that?

And what are examples of that?

Well, he seems to have the full toolbox of persuasion, which if you didn't study it as a field, as I do, I'm a trained hypnotist, you wouldn't recognize.

So, for example, the number one tool of persuasion is fear.

So he started it out in 2015, the illegal people who may be criminals are streaming across the border and, you know,

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