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Reform or Die? The NHS 10 Year Plan

Newscast

BBC

Politics, News

4.4 • 6.4K Ratings

🗓️ 3 July 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Can the government’s new ten year plan save the NHS? Today the government published it’s plan to reform the NHS. The government says it will focus on three main changes, shifting from treatment to preventative care, switching to digital health services, and moving to more community care.

Adam speaks to minister of state for care Stephen Kinnock about the plans, and Chris joins to unpack the government’s announcement.

Plus, as part of the Newscast Summer Tour, Adam and Chris will be in Sheffield tomorrow at Crossed Wires podcast festival. The festival’s creative director and Radio One breakfast show host Greg James stops by to give Adam a preview on what’s in store.

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New episodes released every day. If you're in the UK, for more News and Current Affairs podcasts from the BBC, listen on BBC Sounds: https://bit.ly/3ENLcS1 Newscast brings you daily analysis of the latest political news stories from the BBC. It was presented by Adam Fleming. It was made by Jack Maclaren with Anna Harris and Shiler Mahmoudi. The technical producer was Mike Regaard. The assistant editor is Chris Gray. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham.

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:04.8

Hello, it's my favourite kind of day, a 168-page document issued by the government with loads and loads of pledges about a particular policy area.

0:14.3

In this case, it's the 10-year plan for fundamentally transforming the NHS.

0:20.3

Now, I suspect the plan from the government was this was going to be this set piece

0:23.8

marking their first year in office.

0:25.9

But of course, it's been overshadowed by what happened at Prime Minister's questions on Wednesday

0:30.0

when Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, looked very tearful while sitting next to the Prime Minister.

0:35.4

So those two things have collided. Let's see how it

0:38.8

played out throughout the day on this episode of Newscast. Newscast from the BBC. He has just

0:45.3

compared me to the fat controller. Did I say that? I can't believe I said that. Next question.

0:51.1

This is R for the benefit of Earth. I'm not personally a huge Sabrina Carpenter fam.

0:56.6

I don't think I'm being rude.

0:58.0

I like landscapes.

0:59.1

Take me down to Downey Street.

1:00.8

Let's go have a tour.

1:02.6

Blimey.

1:04.0

Hello, it's Adam in the newscast studio.

1:06.0

And Chris in the newscast studio.

1:08.1

Except are we in the newscast studio?

1:10.4

Existential question.

1:11.4

So we're both at Westminster in the little studio that we used to use for the televised version of newscast.

1:17.1

Oh yeah, because when I speak to you and you're at Westminster, you're in a cupboard.

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