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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the final episode of our reflections on Queen Charlotte a Bridgeton story.

I am your humble and honored host, and we're gathered here today for a truly noteworthy conversation with two distinguished guests. That's why you're here, right?

Today, we have the immense privilege of sharing time with creator Shonda Rhyhymes and executive

producer Betsy Beers. As we reflect on this remarkable series, I'm filled with gratitude for the

opportunity to pick the brains of these two brilliant minds and to delve deep into their process. And I got to say, it was really fun to watch them rediscover in real time the juice that got them hooked on telling this story in the first place. Shonda and Betsy, acclaimed producers, storytellers in their own

right, have captivated global audiences with their unparalleled ability to breathe life

into characters that are bizarre, royal, untouchable in that way, and yet firmly planted on earth.

All right. So here we are. We are finally taking your questions to creator, Shonda Rhymes, and executive producer Betsy Beers. So without further ado,

let's just get right into it. For me, and I think for a lot of fans, I am most fascinated by your working relationship and how that has flourished over the years, changed, morphed, became what it is.

So I'm really curious about how the two of you work together. And I know that this project was special for a few reasons. Could you tell us about that? And then if you could really paint a picture

of what it looks like to be working together. It's a funny question because at this point,

we're so used to working together by also not working together, if that makes any sense.

That totally makes sense. You know, we get together and we discuss projects in the writing process. I'm always talking to Betsy about what I'm thinking or what I'm considering or how it's going to work. And at the same time, Betsy's sort of working to make sure production is prepped the way it needs to be prepped and understands the vision that I'm trying to put out there, a job that gets easier, I think, for all of us because of Tom, since Tom is also part of our permanent little group now, which is really nice. But, you know, usually I'm writing and either telling Betsy it's terrible or sending her pages and telling her, I think it's great and her telling me what she thinks. And then when there's a script, we sort of hit the road talking about production and stuff. And at this point, I don't have to say to Betsy, here's the vision that I have for Queen Charlotte, because Betsy already has that vision too.

We've worked together for so long that we just see things the same way now.

Don't you think Betsy?

No, I totally agree with that.

And the great thing is we're sounding words for each other and especially what I like to feel like is we have conversations about stuff or what's interesting about stuff or we'll start with like, I think this point is interesting. And her big brain will like spew out some amazing sort of what ifs. And then we can start with the what-ifs and push them in lots of

different directions. And one of the things I love to do, and I've done my whole life in this job,

is I'll drive in four billion directions just for the hell of it. And then it's a little bit

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