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Reflecting On A Billion Years w/Mike Rinder

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Religion & Spirituality

4.8566 Ratings

🗓️ 26 October 2022

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Mike Rinder was raised as a Scientologist from the age of 5 when his parents began attending the Scientology International Center in Australia in the early 1960s. He eventually went on to serve as Scientology’s international spokesperson. Mike was the head of OSA- Scientology's Office of Special Affairs and was a member of the Board of directors of the Church of Scientology International. Since denouncing Scientology, Rinder has become a prominent whistleblower against its abuses. He appeared in the HBO documentary Going Clear and co-hosted all three seasons of Leah Remini's Emmy Award-winning show Scientology and the Aftermath. He and Remini also co-host the podcast Scientology: Fair Game. His excellent new memoir, A BILLION YEARS: My Escape From a Life in the highest Ranks of Scientology is available now. In this revealing and fascinating conversation, longtime colleagues Rachel and Mike discuss the psychological blocks common to many cult followers as well as the specific mental hurdles former Scientologists have to overcome to regain their personal autonomy. Mike reflects on the process of writing his memoir, describing the catharsis he felt as well as the clarity it provided him as he had to imagine for the first time what his life's story looked like from an outsider's perspective. Before You Go: Rachel explains the significance of Mike having no pictures of himself or his family from the decades he spent in Scientology, describing the damaging effects high control groups can have on their followers by diminishing familial connection and eliminating the sentimentality of memories shared with loved ones. You can listen to Mike's podcast with Leah Remini, Scientology: Fair Game here: https://fairgamepodcast.com/ You can purchase Mike's memoir A Billion Years here: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60209478-a-billion-years Check out Mike's Blog here: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ You can purchase Rachel's webinar series LIVING IN FREEDOM here: rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html Thanks to all of our newest Patreon supporters: Wendy Connell, Suzanne Segura, Romana Frey, Hilary Mark Nelson, Gina Sufrin, Maggie J, Paige, Kristin, Stephanie, Marianne, and Liz Matthei!! To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:51.0

Mike Rinder was raised as a Scientologist from the age of five,

0:57.0

when his parents began attending the Scientology International Center in Australia in the early 1960s.

1:04.0

He eventually went on to serve as Scientology's international spokesperson.

1:09.0

Mike was the head of OSA, Scientology's Office of Special Affairs,

1:15.2

and was a member of the board of directors of the Church of Scientology International.

1:20.2

Since denouncing Scientology, Mike has become a prominent whistleblower against its abuses.

1:27.4

He appeared in the HBO documentary Going

1:29.6

Clear and co-hosted all three seasons of Leah Remini's Emmy Award-winning show, Scientology, and

1:36.9

The Aftermath. He and Remini also co-host the podcast Scientology Fair Game. His excellent new memoir, a billion years,

1:46.5

My Escape from a Life in the Highest Ranks of Scientology, is available now. It is a treat

1:53.0

to talk to Mike, and we've known each other a long time, and our paths have crossed

1:59.8

throughout our lives, and it's really nice to see him

2:04.7

in this new incarnation, so to speak, of his life where he gets to truly enjoy it and be happy.

2:12.9

I am really happy that he was able to join me on this show and he would like to be able to come back

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