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Welcome to Grow Cook Eat Arrange, the podcast of me, Sarah Raven, and normally my mate and colleague Arthur Parkinson.

But today I've given Arthur the day off because I wanted to chat to an even older friend than Arthur, Emma Bridgewater, who I'm sure lots of you will know, but I'm just going

to do a really brief introduction to her just in case you don't. Emma and I were actually

brought up very close to each other and so had our childhood just outside Cambridge. But actually,

although I kind of heard of her, I had never met her until I went to write about the garden that she had at a beautiful old rectory in Norfolk.

And I wrote about it for the telegraph and I immediately fell in love with Emma and Matthews Garden and them as people and they've been great, great friends ever since.

The great, great friends ever since. The funny thing is, of course, Emma set up her brand way before I set up my gardening brand,

as I suppose you call it.

And so she sort of mentored me in the early days and has been a real fantastic friend and

guiding light. And so it just seemed like such a lovely thing to have her on the podcast to talk

about her love of gardening and how it's kind of influenced her and the designs in the brand. So

welcome, Emma. It's so lovely to have you here.

Well, thank you, Sarah. What very nice things you say. I quite agree that there's lots of

similarities in our lives and our careers. And one of the things that struck me recently,

actually after I was talking to you last week, is that what we've both done is kind of made businesses out of things that we

kind of grew up with very passionately held things and yes there's something both fantastic

and quite kind of emot perhaps it's quite sort of exhausting about doing that there's so much

of me in my business and I always think so much of you in yours. I've just been looking at your new catalogs. They're just fantastic. And they're so inspiring. And you're having such a massive effect on the look of our gardens everywhere. It's amazing. It's amazing what you're doing.

We can have a mutual admiration society.

And of course, I mustn't slide off Arthur too quickly either because he is the co-host of the podcast normally.

And of course, he worked with you in Stoke, which we're going to come on to Stoke in a bit and the amazing factory.

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