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The Lincoln Project

Redistricting Roulette: House Always Wins

The Lincoln Project

The Lincoln Project

Society & Culture, News Commentary, Government, Daily News, News, Politics

4.78.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Forget ballot stuffing — the real con is happening at the drafting table. Rick Wilson and redistricting assassin Dave Daley rip into the 2025 gerrymander scam that’s turning democracy into a rigged casino. The lines are drawn, the fix is in, and voters are the suckers at the table. From Texas to New York, Republicans are carving maps like mobsters carving turf — locking in power before a single vote is cast. Rick and Dave break down the cartographic crime scene, torch the Democrats sleepwalking through it, and lay out what it means when the map decides the outcome before the voters ever get their say. Time to wake up! • • • • • Follow Dave Daley @davedaley3 on X. You can purchase his books 'Antidemocratic: Inside the Far Right's 50-Year Plot to Control American Elections' & 'Ratf**ked: Why Your Vote Doesn't Count' wherever fine books are sold. Follow Rick Wilson at @TheRickWilson on X and @therickwilson.bsky.social on Bluesky, and subscribe to his Substack at therickwilson.substack.com. Join the fight with the Lincoln Project at www.lincolnproject.us and follow LP on X at @ProjectLincoln. If you'd like to help us continue our critical work, visit https://action.lincolnproject.us/helplp to make a difference. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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They thought, okay, this will be good for us, and there will still be some small number of crazies,

0:36.4

but they will not be able to take over the party.

0:39.8

How'd that work out?

0:41.6

Your task will not be an easy one.

0:44.2

Your enemy is well-trained, well-equipped in battle-hearted.

0:48.1

There is not a liberal America and a conservative America.

0:51.8

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0:56.7

Good night and good luck.

0:58.8

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Lincoln Project podcast. I'm your host, as always, Rick Wilson.

1:02.7

I am delighted to be joined today by Dave Daly.

1:06.3

Dave Daly is an expert on redistricting. And redistricting is a story we're all talking about right now

1:11.5

because of the shenanigans in Texas. The responses to those shenanigans that are about to happen

1:16.6

in California and New York and Illinois and Florida and Georgia and Missouri and ping pong back and

1:23.7

forth. He is the author of two tremendous books on redistricting. One is called

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