Hello and welcome to another episode of Red Hacks, a series of conversations about journalism,

and being a journalist in a neoliberal world. My name is Joanna Ramiro, and I have been

chatting to comrades and colleagues about how it feels to be a left-wing journalist in these

turbulent times. Previously on the show, we had the celebrated photojournalist Jess Heard and the indelible

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fix. Today we are recording from a slightly different location. We came all the way from

South London to, believe it or not, the New

Statesman podcast booth. And that's because of today's guest. He's a former political and now

deputy editor of the New Statesman, where his coverage of Jeremy Corbyn's labor leadership earned

him the nickname Woke George. You might have seen him on the telly, commenting on all things,

Westminster and beyond. George Eaton, I am absolutely delighted to have you on Red Hacks.

It's a pleasure to be here.

Great. So we'll start off where I usually like to start off these conversations.

In 2019, you're mostly known for being a fixture of the new statesman, but your journalistic journey started well before then.

So tell our listeners how you entered the enticing world of journalism or how you ended up

entrapped in it. Yes. So I first thought about pursuing journalism as a career while I was at

university. So I got into writing for the student newspaper at Warwick University. And I'd always

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