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Unexplainable

Redefining death

Unexplainable

Vox

Science, Natural Sciences, Life Sciences

4.62.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 October 2023

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

This Halloween, we look at how technology is forcing us to ask: When is someone actually dead? And we look into research that is raising a further question: Could death someday be reversible? This episode originally ran on November 22, 2022. For show transcripts, go to bit.ly/unx-transcripts For more, go to http://vox.com/unexplainable It’s a great place to view show transcripts and read more about the topics on our show. Also, email us! unexplainable@vox.com We read every email. Support Unexplainable by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

When you're walking around outside this week, you're probably going to see a lot of skeletons.

0:07.5

You might see some mummies.

0:08.9

You're definitely going to see some ghosts.

0:10.8

And it's because Halloween is all about blurring the line between the dead and the living.

0:16.4

On the surface, it can seem like a magical, fanciful kind of thing.

0:21.0

But when you actually get down to it and you look at it from a scientific perspective like we tend to do on our show,

0:27.1

it turns out the definition of death isn't all that clear.

0:31.6

And someday, maybe, it might be flexible, even reversible.

0:37.6

Our reporters, Bird Pinkerton and Brian Resnick, looked into this question last year, and we thought

0:42.1

we'd share the episode again with you just in time for Halloween.

0:45.4

And just a heads up before we start, there are some explicit descriptions of death in the

0:50.0

episode.

0:51.2

So what is death?

0:56.6

According to Bob Droog, death used to be pretty obvious.

1:01.1

Up until about the 1950s, there was no confusion about what death meant.

1:06.3

Bob's a bioethicist who thinks a lot about what death means. And he says that for a long time...

1:12.6

It meant that you weren't breathing, your heart had stopped, you were stiff, and you were, you know, blue or gray.

1:19.6

It was so clear that one researcher I spoke to told me, in the early 1900s, people weren't really writing down textbook definitions of death.

1:30.9

They were more interested in telling people how to test for it.

1:34.1

Like, you could put a mirror in front of someone's mouth to see if it fogged up,

1:37.8

and if it didn't fog up, they weren't breathing, and were therefore probably dead.

1:43.6

But by the 1950s, technological breakthroughs were starting to confuse the issue here.

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