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Straight White American Jesus

Red State Religions: The Religious Fight for Same Sex Marriage in Alabama Part II

Straight White American Jesus

Axis Mundi Media: Bradley Onishi + Daniel Miller

News, Politics

4.71.8K Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Gillian Frank continues to explore the progressive religious communities in conservative areas, focusing on the Unitarian Universalist ministers and LGBTQ couples who participated in same-sex marriage ceremonies in Birmingham, Alabama. The episode highlights Reverend Luna Jensen Borad's, detailing the political and religious struggles leading to and following the legalization of same-sex marriage. Personal stories from Kay and Andrew illustrate the impact of finding liberal religious spaces in a conservative environment. The episode examines the intersection of faith and social justice, unraveling the complex history of marriage equality and the enduring presence of liberal religion in the Bible Belt. Red State Religions is produced by the Institute for Religion, Media, and Civic Engagement with generous funding from the Henry Luce Foundation. Created by Dr. Gillian Frank Producer: Andrew Gill Executive Producer: Dr. Bradley Onishi Audio Engineer and Music: R. Scott Okamoto Production Assistance: Kari Onishi For more research-based podcasts and public scholarship visit www.axismundi.us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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On a bright winter morning in 2015, outside the same courthouse where Martin Luther King, Jr. was imprisoned for his civil rights activism in 1967, ministers from

0:40.5

Birmingham's Unitarian Universalist Church conducted wedding ceremonies for gay and lesbian couples

0:46.5

who had just won the legal right to get married.

0:49.7

My phone name is Lorne Jensen Gussard.

0:53.8

And I'm a retired Unitarian Universalist Minister.

0:58.0

I was born in Copenhagen, Denmark. I am bringing that up because otherwise people may

1:04.0

sit there and wonder where on earth is she from?

1:07.0

Though she was born in Denmark, Reverend Brissart had lived in Alabama long enough to temper her expectations when it came to state-sanctioned same-sex marriage.

1:16.6

I thought the most we could hope for was a service of union kind of thing, a legal thing, you know, at least.

1:23.6

But I never thought this would happen.

1:26.6

But in 2015, it did happen.

1:29.3

And for the congregation at the Birmingham Unitarian Universalist Church, it was a big deal.

1:35.3

Their LGBTQ members now had access to a vital right, a right that would protect and honor their relationships.

1:43.3

It was just the latest civil rights struggle the church had engaged in,

1:48.0

there, in the buckle of the Bible Belt,

1:51.0

as religious blue dots in a red state. Welcome to Red State Religions, a limited series podcast exploring liberal religion in conservative spaces.

2:13.6

My name is Gillian Frank. In this series, we're exploring the many perforations in the so-called Bible Belt.

2:21.3

The term Bible Belt conjures images of old-time religion and conservative Christianity.

2:28.4

But just like any other belt, this label fails to contain the excesses it surrounds.

2:36.0

In Bible Belt states, known for electing self-proclaimed religious and conservative politicians,

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