Red Notice: The Full Bill Browder Interview
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🗓️ 21 July 2021
⏱️ 56 minutes
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In this eye-opening discussion to kick off the Gaslit Nation Summer Reading Series: Essential Conversations with Leading Experts on How to Protect Our Democracy, running mid-July to mid-August, Bill Browder discusses the ongoing threat of Putin's aggression and what to do about it. We ran an excerpt of our interview with Browder in May. This is the full interview.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Sarah Kensier, the author of the best-selling books, The View from Flyover Country, and Hiding in Plain Sight. |
| 0:17.0 | I'm Andrea Chalupa, a journalist and filmmaker, and the writer and producer of the journalistic thriller, Mr. Jones, about Stalin's genocide famine in Ukraine. |
| 0:28.0 | And this is Gaslit Nation, a podcast covering corruption in the United States and rising autocracy around the world. |
| 0:34.9 | And today we are talking to Bill Browder, the author of the must-read book, |
| 0:42.2 | Red Notice. So Bill is joining Gaslit Nation for an important conversation as part of our |
| 0:49.4 | Gaslit Nation Summer reading series. But first, Bill Browder's bio from his website, I'll read from that now, |
| 0:55.8 | Bill Browder is the founder and CEO of Hermitage Capital Management, which was the |
| 0:59.9 | investment advisor to the largest foreign investment fund in Russia until 2005. When Bill was |
| 1:05.9 | denied entry to the country and declared a, quote, threat to national security as a result |
| 1:10.7 | of his battle against |
| 1:11.7 | corporate corruption. Following his expulsion, the Russian authorities raided his offices, |
| 1:17.5 | seized Hermitage funds and investment companies, and used them to steal 230 million of taxes that |
| 1:24.2 | the companies had previously paid. When Browder's lawyer, Sergey Magnitsky, |
| 1:29.7 | investigated the crime, he was threatened by the same officers he implicated, tortured for |
| 1:35.3 | 358 days, and killed in custody at the age of 37 in November 2009. Since then, Browder has spent |
| 1:42.4 | years fighting for justice for Mr. McNitsky. The Russian government |
| 1:46.1 | exonerated and even promoted some of the officials involved. So Browder took the case to America, |
| 1:51.0 | whereas campaigning led to the U.S. Congress adopting the Sergei McNitsky Rule of Law Accountability Act in 2012, |
| 1:59.8 | which imposed visa sanctions and asset freezes on those involved in the detention, |
| 2:04.7 | ill-treatment, and death of Sergei McNitsky, as well as in other human rights abuses. |
| 2:09.7 | This law was the first time the U.S. sanctioned Russia in 35 years and became the model for all |
| 2:14.7 | subsequent U.S. sanctions against Russia. Browder is currently working to have similar legislation passed in McNinsey's name across the European Union and elsewhere. |
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