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The Rich Zeoli Show

RED MEAT BONUS: Free speech vs hate speech: Is there a difference? And the lessons about it to take from Charlie Kirk

The Rich Zeoli Show

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4.91.6K Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Charlie Kirk said there's no such thing as hate speech. So then, why are so many people losing their jobs over what they're saying about his death? Explore the issue with a law professor and hosts Tara Servatius, Marc Cox, Bob Rose, and join a rousing debate on the Kayal Show from WPHT Radio.

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18-year-old Cameron Giselle Booker was charged with assault after the incident on campus, where students had gathered to mourn the loss of Charlie Kirk who was assassinated last week. Booker appears to chant a celebration of Kirk's death and then was involved in a confrontation with two different people. I'm not emotional, ma'am. Don't tell me what I am and what I'm not. You can get out of my face, because I could tell you what you are, but you won't like it. You're being aggressive. You're being aggressive.

0:23.0

I'm not being You can get out of my face because I could tell you what you are, but you won't like it. You're being aggressive. I'm not being aggressive. My voice is very calm. You're calling me aggressive because I'm a black woman. No, we're not. Governor Greg Abbott took to social media saying she picked the wrong place to taunt the death of Kirk. The Texas Education agencies going after teachers that post negative things about Kirk.

0:39.1

They're reviewing 180 complaints.

0:41.0

Zep Cappo is the president of the Texas AFT, says the T-EA commission of Mike Marath on a witch hunt.

0:47.0

He's trampled on people's rights to have some level of due process.

0:52.0

And frankly, rather than being a public servant that is apolitical has decided to take gasoline

0:58.9

and pour it onto a political fire and light the match.

1:04.0

In a letter, Marath warned superintendent said, teachers that post or shared content would be

1:09.9

referred for investigation for possible violations

1:12.5

of the teacher's code of ethics. Welcome to Red Meat, the collection of the tastiest tidbits

1:18.7

from Odyssey's conservative news talk radio stations across the country, a place where we're not

1:23.8

afraid to dig in. Today we're talking about how the political climate of the United

1:28.0

States is creating strange bedfellows. In the wake of the assassination of conservative youth

1:33.3

organizer and debating firebrand Charlie Kirk, people are taking positions you may not have imagined.

1:39.8

On one side, respected educators have been accused of celebrating murder, and say what you will, at a

1:45.9

base level, you don't have to be apparent to want the people guiding today's youth to teach

1:50.6

them that killing is bad. On the other, some who loved and adored Kirk and the platform that he

1:57.3

stood for are saying it's wrong to prosecute those celebrating his murder.

2:02.7

Essentially, philosophies on free speech are pushing people to sides where you wouldn't expect

2:08.1

to find them. And somewhere in the middle, many are wondering why the division in the U.S.

2:13.5

has escalated to the point where a young man's senseless shooting death becomes a political tit for tat.

2:20.0

The murder of conservative activist Charlie Perk is making many people question if free speech is under attack at this moment in history.

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