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Red lines for AI

Tech Life

BBC

Tech News, News, Technology

4.4221 Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

More than 200 prominent individuals and 70 organisations want international agreement on 'do not cross' red lines for artificial intelligence, to prevent risks to humanity. We speak to Stuart Russell, professor of computer science at the University of California in Berkeley, who is backing the call. He spells out some of the potential risks that AI could pose to us all, and says global agreement on AI red lines is the solution.

Also on Tech Life this week: We look at how artificial intelligence is having an impact on the legal profession. In Ghana, holograms are helping to spread breast cancer health advice. And Shiona McCallum speaks to a young tech Youtuber in Dubai.

Presenter: Shiona McCallum Producer: Tom Quinn

(Image: An illustration of AI letters against a red backdrop. Credit: Wong Yu Liang/Getty Images)

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts.

0:07.3

Welcome back to the home of the oxymoron.

0:10.5

Evil genius.

0:11.6

He asked the newspaper to print his obituary early so he'd enjoy it.

0:15.5

That's like hiding at your own funeral.

0:17.1

Yeah, a big, great gig.

0:18.6

I'm Russell Kane.

0:19.6

Join me to weigh in on whether the biggest players in history are more evil or genius.

0:24.1

Becoming that rich, I'll say that at some level of genius.

0:26.4

It also helps that it's a long time ago, right?

0:29.4

It's like the podcast version of telling your kids the ice cream van plays music when it's out of ice cream.

0:34.9

Listen to evil genius on BBC Sounds.

0:38.2

Hello and welcome to TechLife on the BBC World Service, the programme about technology and how it affects all our lives.

0:46.0

I'm Shona McCallum. This week we're looking at some of the serious concerns about artificial intelligence.

0:52.5

You might be familiar with chatbots or have experimented with generating

0:56.0

images or videos using AI. It can be fun. But there is also potential dangers. And some of the

1:02.5

world's leading experts have expressed fresh concerns. I'll be speaking to one of them. That's in a

1:08.0

moment. Later, we look at how AI is making an impact on the legal profession.

1:13.4

AI is at this moment not quite replacing lawyers, but it's enhancing the work significantly.

1:20.4

And find out how holograms are helping to spread breast cancer health advice in Ghana.

1:48.2

Music spread breast cancer health advice in Ghana. Let's get straight into it on TechLife today with a call.

1:55.3

Establish clear international boundaries to prevent universally unacceptable risks for AI,

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