Red Carded by the BBC: Mark Lawrenson Talks About Shocking Exit and Life Before and After Football
Disruptors
Rob Moore
4.8 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 10 June 2024
⏱️ 107 minutes
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Summary
Rob is joined by ex-footballer and commentator Mark Lawrenson in this episode. Mark talks about what it was like to work for and then be axed by the BBC, the reasons he believes so many of his fellow presenters were axed and also reveals a shocking story around the Maxwells and Robert Maxwell’s murder. Rob and Mark also discuss why they feel the UK has gone soft, the impact big money and financing has made to football and more incredible stories from his career as a footballer and presenter.
Mark Lawrenson Reveals:
- Why the BBC Sacked him
- The differences between male and female football
- Why TV and the country has gone ‘too soft’
- What it was like to play for Liverpool
- Why being told he couldn’t play football drove him to his ultimate success
- The negative impact of big money and finance on football
- A shocking story surrounding Maxwell's alleged murder by Mossad
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“Really good [football] commentary makes a huge difference”
“The country is knackered”
"Bob Paisley comes down from upstairs, takes him a couple of minutes and everything. Walks in. Complete hush, respect... Where's Alan Kennedy? And one of the lads had gone, 'Oh, he's over here.' So, Bob strolled over and looked at him, and he said, 'Do you know what, Alan? They shot the wrong fucking Kennedy.'"
"I'd get slaughtered sometimes, fair enough, doesn't particularly bother me. And then I'd meet somebody and then they say to me, 'Oh you're completely different from what you, when you're commentating,' and I go, 'No I'm not. I'm just the same.'"
"One of the problems with the BBC was that they don't really understand things like you've been a footballer and sometimes you get left out. And you get taken off the pitch. And it's as though they can't tell you the bad news."
"My biggest disruption was my mum leaving us... We never knew. My mum always said to us, 'You, I'll never tell you what happened, but you would have done the same thing.'"
"Robert Maxwell owns Derby, Kevin Maxwell owns Oxford... He looked at me and he said, 'What's your problem?' I imagine that, and it just all came out, and I called him every name under the sun. And he looked at me, and he went, 'I quite like you actually.'”
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| 0:00.0 | This ex-Livable legend was fired from the BBC at the time when many middle-aged white men were fired and cancelled across mainstream media. |
| 0:11.0 | He exposes the real reason he was fired. He shares his shocking |
| 0:15.7 | revelations about the state of the UK. We have some solid debates on whether footballers |
| 0:20.0 | are paid fairly and he exposes financial fair play rules and Manchester City. |
| 0:25.6 | This ex-Liverple legend who had a guaranteed England place and turned it down also shares |
| 0:31.2 | secrets and stories he's never told before. |
| 0:34.4 | Whether you're a disruptor or a football fan, |
| 0:37.0 | a fan of free speech or you're frustrated about the state of the UK, |
| 0:40.6 | you will love this episode. |
| 0:42.0 | Mark, and what's the... the UK you will love this episode. |
| 0:48.0 | Mark and what's the truth about if you were axed by the BBC? Well I was so um so basically what happened was Dan Walker left and |
| 0:57.2 | And Dan Walker was it presented he presents on football focus. |
| 1:01.7 | Like a really really good presenter and he found out that he wasn't |
| 1:06.4 | going to be kept on through his agents I think so I suddenly thought I I well if he's going |
| 1:18.4 | I'm probably next because of my age and lo and behold I was. So it was, the thing with the BBC for me was just the way that they did it really as much as anything |
| 1:26.6 | when I stopped doing match of the day as opposed to football focus I met the head honch show in terms of football and I think we'd been moved to Manchester then. |
| 1:38.0 | They said, come on, let's come and have a lunch and all that. And I'm thinking, no, this is good. |
| 1:42.0 | Because normally when somebody asked you to have a |
| 1:44.0 | lunch you having a good time I was asking me to come to the lunch and tell me I wasn't |
| 1:48.4 | doing much the day anymore and you know what the worst thing was he told me we sat down we hadn't ordered or anything |
| 1:54.4 | he said oh look you know we're gonna change it I'm just gonna do football focus |
| 1:58.3 | yeah my my what I ordered he ate. Brilliant. |
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