Am I going to be judging out because I do drink or whatever and that's that's not the point I think the point is just being so self-honous to where you know I don't want this life and that can look so different for anybody.

From crooked media this is unholyer than now. I'm your host, Philip Picardy.

According to Blue Cross Blue Shield, alcohol consumption

increased 23% during the pandemic.

And honestly, I'm surprised it's not even more than that.

This wasn't happening in bars with friends or at work happy hours.

More often than not, this was happening at home.

And often, alone.

People already in recovery were cut off from their support systems and people trying to enter

recovery might have lost the financial or social resources needed to do so.

So today we'll hear two very different stories of recovery. After the break we'll hear from

my friend Kiana. Kiana and I went to high school together and she has had a long road to recovery.

What makes it stick this time though is her finding God.

But first we'll hear from Odette.

Odette was in recovery before the pandemic,

but stepped into a leadership role after it began.

Odette is part of an online recovery community called Cafe R.E and during the

pandemic became the host of its podcast interviewing members of her community

about their journeys to provide guidance, support, and camaraderie to those who may be struggling.

We talk about her religious upbringing and spiritual practice, becoming the face of a growing and

thriving community and where people find the strength to heal.

Welcome, Odette.

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