Hello and welcome to being well I'm Forrest Hanson.

Today we have the pleasure of being joined by Dr. Ronda Freeman.

Dr. Freeman is a clinical neuropsychologist.

She works with patients diagnosed with neurological conditions

and focuses much of her work on helping people who were involved in toxic or

abusive relationships. She's also the founder of neuro instincts and writes for

psychology today and the Huffington Post, among others.

Dr. Freeman, it's great to have you on the show today.

How you doing?

Oh, you're welcome.

Great to be here, thank you.

Yeah, no, we already did some talking

before we got started, and I'm really interested

in what we explored today. We're going to talk

about sociopathy and malignant narcissism, two topics that we've already

touched on a bit during the podcast, but it'll be great to get your perspective on

them as kind of a true expert in these subjects.

So you could have explored a lot of material but you chose this so why is that?

Yeah, it actually is for personal reasons.

My focus of my career was on dementia.

I've always been very interested in dementia.

So when I went to do my fellowship after the PhD,

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