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Hi, this is Christina Cotterucci from Slate. The what next team is taking a break this week,

so they asked me to pick some of my favorite episodes to replay for you.

For today, I present to you Mary Harris' conversation with Jamel Bowie on Joe Biden's political record,

the episode first aired in mid-March. And I love the way Jamel reframed Biden's politics.

They kind of got buried by his association with Barack Obama, but they're worth reconsidering now that Biden's running for president again.

On to the show.

Okay, so this weekend, this poll came out, and it showed Joe Biden in Iowa with 27% of the vote,

which is the lead. Bernie's right behind him at 25%.

I have a tendency to roll my eyes at these kinds of polls.

Former Slatester, current New York Times opinion columnist, Jamel Bowie,

he rolls his eyes at a lot of political coverage. It's why I like having him on the show.

At this stage, in any presidential race, we're just kind of engaging name recognition.

When I was on those who Joe Biden is, and he is the leader, Bernie Sanders is next up in terms of who everyone knows,

then Elizabeth Warren, then Kamala Harris.

It's not conclusive of anything.

A lot can change in between now and into the year or now when voting begins.

I guess I do feel though that there's like this, I don't know if I'd call it hunger or appetite,

but there's this growing surge kind of feeling about Biden.

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