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Zero To Travel Podcast

Reconnecting to Nature with Adventure, Purpose, Fun, and Travelers’ Curiosity with Alastair Humphreys

Zero To Travel Podcast

Jason Moore

Places & Travel, Entrepreneurship, Business, Society & Culture

4.6868 Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2026

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

What if the travel mindset you bring to far-off places is exactly what's needed right where you live?  Alastair Humphreys is a British adventurer, bestselling author, and speaker named National Geographic Adventurer of the Year. He spent four years cycling 46,000 miles around the world and has since canoed 500 miles down the Yukon River, rowed across the Atlantic, walked the length of India's Kaveri River, and crossed Iceland on foot and pack raft. In recent years he has become one of the most well-known advocates for microadventures and local exploration, and his newest book is Unwilded: Finding Our Way Back to Nature.  Alastair joins me to unpack the ideas in his book, including why our growing disconnection from nature matters personally and planetarily, and how a travel mindset and nature connection can be tools for changing both.  Alastair has made this case before on the show, but Unwilded takes it somewhere new. This isn't just a conversation about microadventures or getting outside more. It's about a specific kind of blindness that builds slowly across generations, and what it costs us without anyone quite noticing. Alastair brings the same practical, adventure-first framing he always does, but this time it's in service of something bigger: a way to take the traveler's curiosity you feel on the road and put it to work where you actually live. The episode ends with a surprisingly simple exercise that can help you turn the world's overwhelming problems into something personal, actionable, and genuinely fun to pursue.  What's one small thing in your immediate environment that you've stopped really noticing? I'd love to hear your thoughts, and I hope you'll share by sending me an audio message.  Tune In To Learn:  Why the traveler's curious, enthusiastic mindset is exactly what's needed at home, and why most of us leave it at the border  What "shifting baseline syndrome" is and why understanding it changes the way you see the world around you  How two apps transformed Alastair's relationship with his daily run, and how to try the same thing  Why spending 15 minutes in nature daily is harder than it sounds, and why that's actually the problem  How connecting with even a tiny patch of local nature can deliver the same buzz as a far-off adventure  What the Overton window has to do with how we approach climate change, travel, and everyday behavior  Why Alastair stopped flying and moved to a vegan diet, and the surprisingly positive effect it had on his life  What the 5-25 exercise is, and how it can help you identify the issues closest to your heart and take action without burning out  How the Netherlands transformed its streets in a generation, and what that says about what's actually possible  The vision Alastair wrote for the world 25 years from now, and why it's closer to reality than it might seem  And so much more  Resources:  Sign up for our FREE newsletter  Alastair Humphreys' website  Unwilded: Finding Our Way Back to Nature  Adventure + Purpose newsletter by Alastair Humphreys  Follow Alastair on Instagram  Merlin Bird ID app  Seek app by iNaturalist  4,000 Weeks by Oliver Burkeman  Want More?  How To Have An Adventure On Any Budget With Alastair Humphreys  Exploring A Single Map: A Travel Adventure For Everyone With Alastair Humphreys  Is Your Summer Vacation Destroying The Planet? w/ Seth Kugel  Thanks To Our Sponsors  Become a Fora Advisor today at foratravel.com/zerototravel  Experience intelligent trip planning for calmer travel with the TripWaffle app  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

I must admit, I do a bit of waffling when it comes to downloading new apps.

0:04.6

I'm always hesitant.

0:05.8

Like, do I really need another app?

0:08.0

Maybe you can relate, but I've got one for you.

0:11.1

That's definitely worth trying out because A, it's free.

0:15.1

B, it takes five seconds to set up and see.

0:18.1

It's going to help make your trips and your travel so much easier it's called

0:23.1

trip waffle did you see what I did there waffling waffle you get it you can stop juggling

0:29.3

email you simply forward them to trip waffle and they turn them into a beautiful itinerary

0:35.4

in second so I tried this out, actually, before I recorded this.

0:40.1

And I wanted to see, how will this perform?

0:42.8

So I found some old booking emails from a trip I took last year, forwarded them to the

0:48.1

Tripwaffle email, and voila.

0:50.2

It appeared right in the app, beautiful visual layout of the itinerary, had the concert tickets, had the flights and everything.

0:57.6

It was all right there.

0:58.5

So this is a wonderful app for organizing your itinerary.

1:02.0

Just go to tripwaffle.com or search tripwaffle wherever you get your apps and give it a go.

1:08.2

David Gardner here.

1:09.5

For more than 30 years, I've been searching for the

1:12.4

market's greatest rule breakers, the companies, ideas, and leaders that change the world and

1:19.5

reward investors playing the long game all the way through. On rule breaker investing, we go

1:25.3

beyond the headlines and the hype to explore the mindset,

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