Recommended Replay: When Amorim Arrived at Man United And The Busby-Ferguson Curse

It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

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4.9 • 667 Ratings

🗓️ 7 January 2026

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Following the sacking of Ruben Amorim by Manchester United, here is a recommended replay from our episode released in November 2024, when Amorim first arrived at Manchester United. Jonathan and Rob discuss the clubs persistent challenge in finding a manager capable of replicating the legacy left by its legendary figures - something that still stands today...

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0:00.0	So welcome to It Was What It Was What It Was and Welcome to 2026 and we're trying out a new feature which is recommended replay.
0:08.0	We thought that some of our back editions are really worth listen to again and particularly in the week that Ruben Amaran's been sacked by Manchester United.
0:15.8	We thought we'd draw your attention to an episode we recorded back in November 2024 when Ruben Amarron was first appointed to Manchester
0:22.5	United because Jonathan went into the deep history of Manchester United and their real struggle
0:27.9	with appointed managers over the years. This isn't a new phenomenon that Sir Jim Rackleff has just
0:32.7	stumbled upon. Clearly they got it very, very wrong with Amarinarin but Jonathan does make the point that only
0:39.5	three managers have won the league with Manchester United which Ernest Magno
0:44.2	obviously Sir Matt Busby and Sir Alex Ferguson but that's extraordinary when you consider
0:48.8	how many managers have won the league with say clubs like Liverpool or even Chelsea
0:54.0	essentially if you go right back to the
0:56.5	Busby legacy, how badly Manchester United get it wrong in appointing Wilf McGuinness and Franco
1:02.6	Farrell Jonathan analyzes all that. And then we pick up a little bit in the post-Fergus
1:07.8	how they get it wrong again with, you know, lurching from David
1:11.7	Moyes to Joseo, Louis Van Hale, all over the place. So I think this shows real value of
1:18.9	history and the history of football and going deep into a club's history because you can see
1:23.3	that the cultural phenomena are there and they're very hard to shift when a club has a certain
1:29.6	way of thinking and in a United's case I think it is a case of appointing bank managers very
1:35.8	often apart from one or two exceptional individuals who have clearly transformed a club
1:41.0	and made them a giant they are today. So do enjoy listening to this replay
1:46.8	episode. Maybe for the first time if you're a new listener or maybe re-listen to it with new ears
1:53.1	if you've already heard it. Thanks very much and have a happy new year.
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