Recognising Palestine - and why it matters
The Story
The Times
4 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 30 July 2025
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
The UK government will recognise Palestine as a state in September, unless Israel meets certain conditions to ease the situation in Gaza. But what would statehood mean? And is it just political posturing or could this help end the war in Gaza and solve one of the world’s most intractable conflicts?
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| 1:22.1 | The photographs of starving children, the killing of people seeking aid, |
| 1:26.6 | the flattening of homes and neighborhoods |
| 1:28.2 | has not only further shocked many watching the war in Gaza from afar. |
| 1:33.0 | It's now sparked a change in UK policy. |
| 1:36.3 | The UK will recognise the state of Palestine by the United Nations General Assembly in September |
| 1:43.1 | unless the Israeli government takes substantive steps... by the United Nations General Assembly in September, |
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