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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Whistleblower Aid CEO John Tye

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2019

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

John Napier Tye, the founder and CEO of Whistleblower Aid, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how his non-profit law firm helps people seeking to legally expose corruption in the government and at private companies. It recently worked with a whistleblower at MIT, connecting them with New Yorker reporter Ronan Farrow to discuss the university's cover-up of funding that had come from convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein; Tye also discusses the US official who reported President Trump's phone call with the president of Ukraine, the Edward Snowden leaks in 2013, and how whistleblowers can protect themselves from criticism and retribution. Plus: Will we always need whistleblowers? Featuring: John Napier Tye, founder and CEO of Whistleblower Aid (@wbaidlaw) Hosts: Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large More to explore: Subscribe for free to Pivot, Kara’s podcast with NYU Professor Scott Galloway that offer sharp, unfiltered insights into the biggest stories in tech, business, and politics. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Follow Us: Newsletter: Recode Daily Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom ... But enough about us We are conducting an audience survey to better serve you. It takes no more than five minutes, and it really helps out the show. Please take our survey here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:04.0

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-at-large of Recode. You may know me as someone who tried to buy a whistle on Pennsylvania Avenue the other day, but how weird they're all sold out.

1:12.0

But in my spare time, I talk tech and you're listening to Recode Decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network.

1:17.0

Today in the red chair is John Napier-Tai, the founder and CEO of the nonprofit law firm Whistleblower Aid.

1:24.0

Its clients are all government employees and private sector workers who want to report violations of the law by their employers without breaking the law themselves.

1:32.0

John previously worked at the State Department leading the Internet Freedom section.

1:36.0

John, welcome to Recode Decode.

1:38.0

Wonderful. Thanks for having me.

1:40.0

Thanks for coming. Let me just start. I want to, you all to explain what you all do at Whistleblower Aid and much more detail.

1:46.0

But what's gotten you in the news lately was the MIT situation.

1:50.0

That's right.

1:51.0

So can you explain what you all did in that I've written about it in New York Times. I've talked, I know Joey E. Joe very well.

1:57.0

Talk about what happened there because Ronan Farrow ended up using your material or your whistleblower.

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