Recode Decode: Tristan Harris, founder, Time Well Spent

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.3 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2017

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Time Well Spent founder Tristan Harris talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the persuasive techniques and tricks used by companies like Twitter, Google and Facebook to make people engage with them every day. Harris's movement wants tech companies to think more often about the ethics of their design decisions, and to value their users' attention. These design choices, Harris says, are often driven by the fundamental "background problem" of advertising, and he makes the case for an "organic food movement" for tech, where users could pay to be manipulated less. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:49.3	Recode Radio presents Recode Decode, hosted by Cara Swisher, powered by digital media.
0:56.3	I am Cara Swisher, executive editor of Recode.
0:59.0	You may know me as the only person ever to binge watch the Brady Bunch Hour, but in my spare
1:02.9	time I talk tech and you're listening to Recode Decode, a podcast about tech and media's
1:07.2	key players, big ideas and how they're changing the world we live in.
1:11.0	You can subscribe to Recode Decode at iTunes.com slash recode decode and while you're there,
1:16.0	leave us a review.
1:17.7	Today in the red chair, I am happy to have Tristan Harris, the founder of Time Well Spent.
1:23.3	The movement to create apps and other tech products that value the time of their users.
1:28.0	He previously co-founded AppShirt, which was acquired by Google in 2011 and then at Google
1:33.2	he spent nearly three years studying the intersection of ethics, philosophy and tech.
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