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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Steven Levy

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2020

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Technology journalist and Wired editor-at-large Steven Levy talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his latest book, Facebook: The Inside Story, for which he obtained years of direct access to CEO Mark Zuckerberg and COO Sheryl Sandberg. Levy discusses how he got that access, how Zuckerberg has changed (or hasn't) over time, and whether he, Sandberg, and the company at large understand the damage that Facebook has caused. Plus: Why Zuckerberg destroyed his old diaries, how he was influenced by Bill Gates, and what will happen to the company next now that it is under more scrutiny than ever. Featuring: Steven Levy (@StevenLevy), author, Facebook: The Inside Story Host: Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large More to explore: On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything. On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media. On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next. And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon! About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Follow Us: Newsletter: Recode Daily Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Gideon Litchfield, I'm the editor-in-chief of Oired.

0:02.6

And I'm Lauren Good, I'm a senior writer at Wired.

0:05.2

We're making a new show.

0:06.5

Have a nice future.

0:09.0

I'm more have a nice future, question mark.

0:12.5

It's a show that is honest about how unsettling the future can be.

0:16.9

We're going to be bringing on the people shaping this future.

0:20.6

We're going to ask them about the big challenges we face, about the challenges they're creating,

0:24.9

and how they deal with living in perpetual uncertainty as we all do.

0:29.2

So make sure you follow Have a Nice Future, wherever you get your podcasts.

0:35.6

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-at-large of Recode.

0:37.7

You may know me as someone who lies awake at night wondering what Facebook will destroy tomorrow,

0:41.9

but in my spare time I'm just a reporter and you're listening to Recode decode a podcast about power change

0:46.7

and the people you need to know around tech and beyond

0:49.4

were part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:51.8

Today in the Red Chair is Stephen Levy, the Editor-at-large at Wired

0:55.0

and the author of several best-selling books about technology, including hackers and in theplex.

0:59.5

His newest book is called Facebook, the Inside Story,

1:02.7

and is drawn from three years of access to CEO Mark Zuckerberg and CEO Cheryl Sandberg

1:07.5

at a crucial time for the company.

1:09.4

We're recording this in mid-February a couple of weeks before the book comes out on February 25th.

1:13.9

Stephen, welcome to Recode decode.

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