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Recode Radio presents Recode Decode, hosted by Cara Swisher, powered by digital

media. Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, executive editor of Recode. You may know me as the

next mayor of San Francisco, but in my spare... Recall!

No, not yet. Later you'll come after me, but in my spare time I talk tech that's

Steve Case, of course, being a pain on the neck as usual.

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Now today in the red chair, it's a special day for me. I'm in Washington, DC and I'm here

with my oldest internet friend, Steve Case. The author, apparently he's tried to write

a book himself. Mine did not do. Of a new book called The Third Wave, which is about

the next wave of the internet, which is actually based on a lot of things we had discussed

in his book a long time ago. Steve was the co-founder and former CEO of America Online. You

might have heard of it, AOL. And then Chairman of AOL Time Warner. In 2005, he co-founded

the Investment Firm Revolution, which is back companies raging from living social to

the zip car to handy. Steve Case, welcome to the show and it's we're together again.

Exactly. This is so exciting. I know. Do you remember where we met? Do you remember when

we met? Oh, she's at least 20 years ago. 20 years and more. Still to wash them both

before you abandoned washing them for 20 years ago. I know. I know. We were in your office

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