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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2019

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Larry Diamond, a professor at Stanford University and senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, Ill Winds: Saving Democracy from Russian Rage, Chinese Ambition, and American Complacency. In this episode: Diamond’s background studying the development and failure of democracies; authoritarian regimes and the internet; why the book is called “Ill Winds”; the right-wing populist backlash across Europe; the deeper frustrations underneath anti-immigration sentiment; why Hillary Clinton lost the electoral college; how Russia, the "fallen superpower," is intervening in elections around the world; Mitch McConnell's obstinacy; "pretty close to treason"; the "risk of sliding into a new Cold War"; why China is the bigger threat in the long term; its tight control of Chinese citizens and companies; how will its rise affect US policy?; how China's people will react when the prosperity stops; declining American investment in R&D "sleepwalking into the future"; how two-party politics have paralyzed the US; Diamond's proposed solution, ranked-choice voting; the danger of online voting; and the fight against gerrymandering, voter suppression, and polarization. Came here from The Bill Simmons Podcast? We rounded up a few favorite episodes we think fans of The Ringer will enjoy. Take a look! Follow us Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), host Larry Diamond (@LarryDiamond), guest Erica Anderson (@EricaAmerica), executive producer Eric Johnson (@HeyHeyESJ), producer More to explore If you haven't already, subscribe to Recode Decode Subscribe to Recode's other podcasts: Recode Media, Pivot, and Land of the Giants Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:56.2

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor at Large of Recode.

1:00.8

You may know me as the only lesbian who doesn't like sports,

1:03.6

but in my spare time I talk tech and you're listening to Recode decode

1:06.9

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1:08.9

Some of you may be new to the show because you heard me on the Bill Simmons podcast recently.

1:13.1

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1:14.6

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