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Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-at-large of Recode. You may know me as the founder of the Recode

Podcast Host Union. The only problem is that I'm the only member because Peter Kafka won't join,

but in my spare time I talk tech and you're listening to Recode decode from the Vox Media Podcast

Network. Today in the red chair, we're thrilled to have Boots Riley, the writer and director of Sorry

to bother you. It's a social satire about capitalism, race, technology and more business. He's also

the lead vocalist of the hip hop band The Coo. Boots welcome to Recode decode. Thank you and it really

is a red chair. I told you I didn't take it. No one has to know though and you could just call it a red chair.

Yes, we could, but it is in fact one. And we also have joining me in the interview,

Recode reporter Shireen Gaffari. Hey, Shireen. Hey, how you doing? Good. So Shireen is the one that

got me to have you here. I'm very excited. All right. So let's start off talking about

the job that's objective. Your success, which is a long time in coming. You've been around a long time.

Yeah. And this is me too. Let's talk a little bit about what you yourself and what you've

been doing. How you got here. I don't mean to say you're old. It's just that you're like,

how did you get to this? Well, my parents were attracted to each other. Got that part.

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