Recode Decode: Sarah Frier

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.3 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2020

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Bloomberg technology reporter Sarah Frier talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her new book, No Filter: The Inside Story of Instagram. Frier discusses how co-founders Mike Systrom and Danny Krieger met, why they sold Instagram to Facebook and not Twitter, and why Systrom and Krieger left in 2018. She also talks about how they and Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg clashed over growth and power, how Instagram changes us psychologically, and the looming "reckoning" it faces as TikTok becomes more popular. Plus: How do current and former Instagram employees feel about the company's shift towards becoming a commerce platform? Featuring: Sarah Frier (@sarahfrier), author, No Filter: The Inside Story of Instagram Host: Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large More to explore: On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything. On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media. On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next. And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon! About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Follow Us: Newsletter: Recode Daily Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	I'm Gideon Litchfield, I'm the editor-in-chief of Oired.
0:02.6	And I'm Lauren Good, I'm a senior writer at Wired.
0:05.2	We're making a new show.
0:06.5	Have a nice future.
0:09.0	I'm more have a nice future, question mark.
0:12.5	It's a show that is honest about how unsettling the future can be.
0:16.9	We're going to be bringing on the people shaping this future.
0:20.6	We're going to ask them about the big challenges we face, about the challenges they're creating,
0:24.9	and how they deal with living in perpetual uncertainty as we all do.
0:29.3	So make sure you follow Have a Nice Future, wherever you get your podcasts.
0:35.6	Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-at-large Recode.
0:37.7	You may know me as someone who has never needed to use a filter, which is good because I don't have one,
0:41.9	but in my spare time I'm just a reporter and you're listening to Recode decode a podcast about power change
0:46.4	and the people you need to know were part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.
0:50.0	Today in the red chair is Sarah Fryer, a technology reporter at Bloomberg.
0:53.4	She's also the author of a new book called No Filter, the Inside Story of Instagram.
0:57.4	The book is about Instagram, the company, else Ups and Downs with Facebook,
1:00.7	which bought it for a billion dollars back in 2012.
1:03.8	But it's also about the way Instagram has changed the way we shop, eat travel and communicate.
1:08.0	We're recording this in late February, but No Filter comes out April 14th.
1:11.9	Sarah, welcome to Recode decode.
1:13.3	Thanks for having me.
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