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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Sally Kohn

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Business, Technology

4.23.4K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2018

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

CNN political commentator Sally Kohn talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her new book, "The Opposite of Hate: A Field Guide to Repairing Our Humanity." Kohn's publicity tour for the book has been tangled up in allegations that she misquoted and misrepresented two of her sources, Ijeoma Oluo and Aminatou Sow, and she discusses how she's working to make things right. She also talks about how she became a TV commentator, why she chooses to engage with Fox News hosts like Sean Hannity and how her past life working as a left-wing activist overlaps with changing minds on broadcast media. Plus: Why Kohn, a gay woman, supports MSNBC anchor Joy Reid, who has been accused of writing homophobic blog posts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Executive Editor of Recode. You may know me as someone who

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hates the haters and enjoys doing it, but in my spare time I talk tech and you're

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listening to Recode decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today in the red

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chair is Sally Cohn, a political commentator for CNN. She's the author of a new

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book called the opposite of hate, a field guy to repairing our humanity.

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Sally, welcome to Recode decode. So I just took me a second to realize I'm in a

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red chair. Yes, you are. It's the red-clacken. A red chair. It's the red

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chair. You usually make it happen. Thank you for having me in your red. You're so

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