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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: "Russian Doll" star Natasha Lyonne and Netflix content VP Cindy Holland (Live at Code 2019)

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 July 2019

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Actor and producer Natasha Lyonne (Russian Doll, Orange Is the New Black) and Netflix's vice president of original content Cindy Holland talk with Recode's Kara Swisher at the 2019 Code Conference. In this episode: How Lyonne got connected with Netflix; Holland’s background at Kozmo.com; Orange is the New Black; the Netflix way of doing things; developing Russian Doll; Netflix’s cancelation of One Day at a Time; how it evaluates creators like Lyonne; the production process of Russian Doll; how Netflix has changed over time; is Russian doll a "hit?”; the dissolving barriers between types of content and different screens; releasing Alfonso Cuaron’s Roma in theaters and on Netflix simultaneously; Netflix’s competition; and season two of Russian Doll. Recode Decode has been nominated for best technology podcast in this year’s People’s Choice Podcast Awards! Cast your vote for Recode Decode at https://www.podcastawards.com/app/signup before July 31st. One vote per category. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Sabotage hired goons and a landfill in Utah.

0:05.0

How Steve Jobs' revolutionary catastrophe of a computer, the Apple Lisa, earned a brief

0:10.7

second life and then was buried for good.

0:14.8

Watch the Verges documentary, Lisa's final act, now on YouTube.

0:22.6

Rico Dicoat has been nominated for Best Technology Podcast and this year's People's Choice

0:26.8

Podcast Awards.

0:28.5

Cast your vote for Rico Dicoat at podcastawards.com slash app slash sign up before July 31st or just

0:35.5

tap the link in the show notes.

0:40.2

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor at Large Arricode.

0:42.8

You may know me as someone who's terrified that I'm living in a Russian doll loop that

0:46.5

will reset to November 2016 when I die, but in my spare time I talk tech and you're listening

0:52.3

to Rico Dicoat from the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:55.5

Today we're going to play an interview from this year's Code Conference.

0:58.5

I interviewed Netflix executive Cindy Holland and the actor Natasha Leon who has starred

1:03.4

in the Netflix series Russian Doll and Orange is the New Black.

1:07.6

They're both highly polished TV shows, but I asked Leon if she could imagine making a

1:11.4

movie for a platform like Instagram and she said that young viewers today are already

1:15.6

looking at their phones while they watch Netflix.

1:18.6

So often in the Russian All Writers Room I would be like, is it more interesting than a

1:22.6

cat video?

1:23.6

You know, it's a real question.

1:26.5

I mean, are you going to be able to keep someone's focus when we watch things now?

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