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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Ronan Farrow

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2019

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Ronan Farrow talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about his new book, Catch and Kill: Lies, Spies, and a Conspiracy to Protect Predators, which details the extreme lengths men like Harvey Weinstein have gone to escape accountability for sexual abuse. He discusses why other journalists before him couldn’t nail the Weinstein story, and how the powerful Hollywood producer tapped into a network of shady allies in his attempt to suppress it — including some of Farrow's former bosses at NBC News. He also talks about how the public and the press mistreated women like Rose McGowan, his recent story about the MIT-Jeffrey Epstein cover-up, and why the book is ultimately optimistic about the future. Plus: Will Catch and Kill be a movie? Featuring: Ronan Farrow, author, Catch and Kill: Lies, Spies, and a Conspiracy to Protect Predators Hosts: Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large More to explore: Subscribe for free to Reset, Recode's new podcast that explores why — and how — tech is changing everything. Listen to Kara's last interview with Farrow (about his previous book, War on Peace), former MIT Media Lab director Joi Ito (recorded before Farrow's New Yorker story that led to Ito's resignation), and She Said authors Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Follow Us: Newsletter: Recode Daily Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Support for this show comes from Into the Mix, a Ben and Jerry's podcast about joy and justice produced with Fox Creative.

0:07.0

As state legislatures consider more than 500 anti-trans bills, the latest episode of Into the Mix asks,

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how best to support and protect transgender youth.

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Like Olioski, a young man who, despite growing up in a loving and supportive home,

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felt the need for friendship with other trans and queer kids.

0:23.0

At just seven years old, he took initiative and built a lasting community.

0:27.0

That story on Into the Mix, subscribe now.

0:57.0

You can even integrate the apps you use in your normal workflow,

1:00.0

like your calendar or product management tools.

1:03.0

So you stay focused on the work that matters and get more done.

1:06.0

Learn more at slack.com slash productivity.

1:09.0

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-Large of Recode.

1:13.0

You may know me as someone who controversially believes that the 2016 film Jackie was perfectly fine,

1:18.0

but in my spare time I'm a technology journalist and you're listening to Recode decode,

1:22.0

a podcast about tech politics, and the media were part of the Fox Media Podcast Network.

1:27.0

That's an inside joke to the book itself.

1:29.0

But today in the red chair is someone I greatly admire and know pretty well.

1:33.0

Ronan Farrow, a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist whose most recent book is called Catch and Kill,

1:38.0

lies, spies, and a conspiracy to protect predators.

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It's about the extreme lengths to which wealthy and powerful men have gone to escape accountability

1:46.0

for sexual abuse, silencing their victims and journalists along the way.

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Ronan, of course, is the reporter who broke the Harvey Weinstein story in 2017 at the New Yorker,

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