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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Ronan Farrow

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Business, Technology

4.23.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2019

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Investigative journalist Ronan Farrow talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about his new book, “War on Peace: The End of Diplomacy and the Decline of American Influence.” The book explores how the Trump administration is “laying waste to the State Department,” but argues that it’s not the first administration to do so — cutting diplomats is politically safer than cutting military spending, and Trump is just doing it at an “unprecedented new extreme.” Farrow also talks about his reporting on Harvey Weinstein, and the culture of silence around powerful perpetrators of sexual abuse, for which he shared in a Pulitzer Prize for Public Service. Intent on keeping the spotlight on survivors rather than predators, Farrow nevertheless hints that there is more to tell about why he published his stories at The New Yorker, rather than his former employer NBC, where he started the Weinstein reporting. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Support for this show comes from Into the Mix, a Ben and Jerry's podcast about joy and justice produced with Fox Creative.

0:07.0

As state legislatures consider more than 500 anti-trans bills, the latest episode of Into the Mix asks,

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how best to support and protect transgender youth.

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Like Olioski, a young man who, despite growing up in a loving and supportive home,

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felt the need for friendship with other trans and queer kids.

0:23.0

At just seven years old, he took initiative and built a lasting community.

0:27.0

That story on Into the Mix, subscribe now.

0:57.0

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like your calendar or product management tools.

1:03.0

So you stay focused on the work that matters and get more done.

1:06.0

Learn more at slack.com slash productivity.

1:09.0

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-Large of Recode.

1:13.0

You may know me as someone who controversially believes that the 2016 film Jackie was perfectly fine,

1:18.0

but in my spare time I'm a technology journalist and you're listening to Recode decode,

1:22.0

a podcast about tech politics, and the media were part of the Fox Media Podcast Network.

1:27.0

That's an inside joke to the book itself.

1:29.0

But today in the red chair is someone I greatly admire and know pretty well.

1:33.0

Ronan Farrow, a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist whose most recent book is called Catch and Kill,

1:38.0

lies, spies, and a conspiracy to protect predators.

1:41.0

It's about the extreme lengths to which wealthy and powerful men have gone to escape accountability

1:46.0

for sexual abuse, silencing their victims and journalists along the way.

1:50.0

Ronan, of course, is the reporter who broke the Harvey Weinstein story in 2017 at the New Yorker,

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