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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Richard Walker

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2019

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Historian and urbanist Richard Walker, a professor emeritus at UC Berkeley, talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about his latest book, Pictures of a Gone City: Tech and the Dark Side of Prosperity in the San Francisco Bay Area. In this episode: How California has historically been affected by economic growth; the Bay Area’s first tech boom, the 1849 gold rush; why has California had so many booms?; the social impacts of this change; waking up to the downside of tech prosperity; “money is literally burning holes in their pockets”; the "bottleneck effect” that created the housing crisis and shoved out the working class; why “just build more” isn’t a realistic solution; what does “gone city” mean?; taxes, job growth and the coming recession; how the ubiquity of tech will spur innovation — but not necessarily in San Francisco; and why taxing the rich and big corporations creates equality. Today's show is brought to you by Microsoft Azure. Check out: Azure.com/trial to sign up for a trial today! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Sabotage, hired goons and a landfill in Utah.

0:05.0

How Steve Jobs' revolutionary catastrophe of a computer, the Apple Lisa, earned a brief

0:10.7

second life and then was buried for good.

0:14.8

Watch the Verges documentary, Lisa's final act, now on YouTube.

0:19.8

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor at Large of Recode.

0:25.4

You may know me as the one person posting disgusting photos of San Francisco on Instagram, but

0:29.4

in my spare time I talk tech and you're listening to Rico D-code from the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:34.4

Today in the red chair is Richard Walker, a professor emeritus at UC Berkeley who studies

0:38.9

human, economic and urban geography as well as the history of California.

0:43.6

He's the author of several books and his most recent one is called Pictures of a Gone

0:47.9

City, tech and the dark side of prosperity in the San Francisco Bay area.

0:52.5

It's a very important topic for people who live here and it's really gotten quite problematic

0:57.2

for those who live here.

0:58.8

Welcome to Rico D-code Richard.

1:00.4

Thank you very much Cara.

1:01.4

Good to be here.

1:02.4

Good.

1:03.4

We both have cold, so we're going to, we're sound very like Husky and everything else in

1:06.2

coffee and it makes me sound better.

1:08.4

Yeah, absolutely.

1:09.4

So let's talk a little bit about your background.

1:11.8

I want to get into this because the issues around San Francisco have never been worse.

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