Recode Decode: Kevin Systrom

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Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.3 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 April 2020

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Instagram co-founder and former CEO Kevin Systrom talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the data analysis he has conducted and publicized about the global spread of coronavirus, and what it tells us the future looks like. He says he applied the same data-minded approach to the virus that he did while at Instagram because "data is data," and says the rapid word of mouth spread of "viral" technology can help us understand what happens when communities and governments don't act to prevent an outbreak. Systrom also talks about people's natural inclination to doubt data, and says the numbers suggest that new cases of covid-19 will peak in mid-May. Plus: Why he hopes his data model is wrong, and what he's been doing since he and fellow Instagram co-founder Mike Krieger left Facebook in 2018. Featuring: Kevin Systrom (@kevin), Instagram co-founder and former CEO Host: Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large More to explore: On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything. On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media. On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next. And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon! About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Follow Us: Newsletter: Recode Daily Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	I'm Gideon Litchfield, I'm the editor-in-chief of Oired.
0:02.6	And I'm Lauren Good, I'm a senior writer at Wired.
0:05.2	We're making a new show.
0:06.5	Have a nice future.
0:09.0	I'm more have a nice future, question mark.
0:12.5	It's a show that is honest about how unsettling the future can be.
0:16.9	We're going to be bringing on the people shaping this future.
0:20.6	We're going to ask them about the big challenges we face, about the challenges they're creating,
0:24.9	and how they deal with living in perpetual uncertainty as we all do.
0:29.2	So make sure you follow Have a Nice Future wherever you get your podcasts.
0:35.7	Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-in-large Recode.
0:38.3	You may know me as someone who's been posting an Instagram story every day while in quarantine,
0:43.0	but no one's watching.
0:44.3	Maybe I should do something other than sitting quietly and staring at my phone.
0:48.3	But in my spare time, I'm just a reporter and you're listening to Recode Decode,
0:51.6	a podcast about power change and the people you need to know were part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.
0:57.3	Today in the red chair is Kevin Sisteram, who has been here before, the co-founder and former CEO of Instagram.
1:03.4	He and his co-founder Mike Krieger sold the company to Facebook in 2012 and left in 2018.
1:09.2	And I wanted to have him on the show today to talk about some incredibly fascinating stuff he's doing
1:12.8	with data and the coronavirus crisis.
1:15.1	We're recording this on March 26, so the numbers may change by the time we publishes,
1:19.3	but you can find his latest work at sisteram.com.
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