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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO, Anti-Defamation League

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2017

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Jonathan Greenblatt, the CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about how the century-old nonprofit is evolving to fight antisemitism and other forms of extremism in the digital age. Greenblatt explains how online platforms have helped white supremacists inject their beliefs into the mainstream conversation and why companies like Twitter, Facebook and Google have so far failed to stop them. He says the ADL is now working directly with engineers at those organizations to confront the problem, and praises the potential of emerging tech like artificial intelligence and virtual reality for making social media — and society — saner. Greenblatt also discusses the right way for journalists to report on extremists like Richard Spencer and how Silicon Valley could make a big difference by having a “bias for good.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Today's show is sponsored by GoCD, a continuous delivery server built by ThoughtWorks.

0:06.0

GoCD helps your team release software more frequently, consistently and reliably.

0:10.0

Download and use GoCD for free.

0:13.0

Visit gocd.org slash recode.

0:18.0

Recode Radio presents Recode-Decode coming to you from the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:24.0

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Executive Editor of Recode.

0:27.0

You're listening to Recode-Decode, a podcast about tech and media's key players, big ideas, and how they're changing the world we live in.

0:34.0

You can find more episodes of Recode-Decode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Play Music, or wherever you listen to your podcast, or just visit recode.net slash podcasts for more.

0:44.0

Today in the red chair is Jonathan Greenblatt, the CEO of the Anti-Defamation League.

0:50.0

He's also a social entrepreneur and previously worked in the Clinton and Obama White House's Jonathan Welcome to Recode-Decode.

0:57.0

Thank you for having me.

0:58.0

No problem. When we're talking the beginning, I want to get your background because you're also a techie.

1:04.0

Which is critically important, I think, in your job today.

1:07.0

Why don't we start talking about that?

1:09.0

Your background a little bit and how you got to the anti-definition, even then tell us what your charge is right now.

1:15.0

Sure. By way of background, I did my undergrad at Tufts and I got my MBA at the Kellogg School of Management.

1:20.0

In between I worked at the government, I worked at the Commerce Department in the early 90s, and then I worked at the White House at the National Economic Council.

1:27.0

And why did you do that?

1:29.0

I joined the Clinton campaign when he was running for president.

1:32.0

First Clinton month.

1:33.0

I was a work study student at Tufts, and he had this idea of young people serving in their community to pay their loans.

1:39.0

And I thought that was a much better idea than mopping floors and busing tables that I was doing.

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