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Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Executive Editor of Recode. You may know me as someone starting a fashion magazine for the Trump family.

I think Orange really is their color, but in my spare time I talk tech and you're listening to Recode decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network.

Today in the red chair is Joanna Cole's, the chief content officer at Hearst Magazine's.

She previously was Editor-in-Chief of Cosmopolitan, an author of a new book called Love Rool, how to find a real relationship in a digital world, which is right at my alley.

The last time I interviewed her on stage at Code Media in 2017, she turned the tables on me and tried to interview me and came up with a sex position called Swisher, was it?

Anyway, yes. We'll see how far you can get today, Joanna. Welcome to Recode decode.

I think you have to be athletic to be able to perform the Swisher. Yes, you do. You have to do a lot of soul cycle and I stretchy bendy things.

Yes, you have to stay flexible in all ways. Thank you for updating this question.

And I want to reassure people that the chair really is red because they haven't seen the studio here, which is rather fancy.

No, it's not rather fancy. It's quite fancy. It's not fancy. It's not dining room table and there's some bits of old food. That's right, that's my food.

I didn't get to eat it. I'll take Joanna. We're talking about your book now. Look, good.

Last time I interviewed you, besides you discussing sex positions with me, which the only time I've turned red on stage, you were also running Cosmopol at the time, right?

You had not moved to your lofty position. So why don't let's give a little background of you for the people because people attuning and may not know who you are, although everybody in New York does.

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