Recode Decode: Jill Lepore

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Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.3 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2020

⏱️ 55 minutes

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American historian and New Yorker staff writer Jill Lepore talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her new podcast, The Last Archive, which investigates "who killed truth?" in the style of a true-crime show. Lepore discusses why the protests against systemic police violence represent America "at our very best," but explains why the two main competing theories of American history are both wrong — and how it should be taught and studied instead. She also talks about the history of technologies, from photography to social media, that have been the subject of a political "fantasy" and previews her upcoming book about Simulmatics, "the Cambridge Analytica of the Cold War." Plus: What would Lepore do if she were a historian in the future trying to understand 2020? Featuring: Jill Lepore, professor of American history at Harvard University and host, The Last Archive Host: Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large More to explore: On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything. On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media. On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next. And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon! About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Follow Us: Newsletter: Recode Daily Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	I'm Gideon Litchfield, I'm the editor-in-chief of Oired.
0:02.6	And I'm Lauren Good, I'm a senior writer at Wired.
0:05.2	We're making a new show.
0:06.5	Have a nice future.
0:09.0	I'm more have a nice future, question mark.
0:12.5	It's a show that is honest about how unsettling the future can be.
0:16.9	We're going to be bringing on the people shaping this future.
0:20.6	We're going to ask them about the big challenges we face, about the challenges they're creating,
0:24.9	and how they deal with living in perpetual uncertainty as we all do.
0:29.3	So make sure you follow Have a Nice Future, wherever you get your podcasts.
0:36.0	Hi, I'm Kira Swisher, editor at Large of Recode.
0:38.4	You may know me as someone who's de-stressing from the news by reading about literally any other time in history,
0:44.5	but in my spare time, I'm just a reporter and you're listening to Recode Decode,
0:48.1	a podcast about power change and the people you need to know,
0:51.2	we're part of the box media podcast network.
0:54.1	Today in the red chair, kind of perfectly timed is Jill Lapur,
0:57.6	a professor of American history at Harvard and a staff writer at the New Yorker.
1:01.6	And I am one of her biggest fans, I don't know if I'm the biggest,
1:04.5	but she's the author of several books, including The Secret History of Wonder Woman,
1:08.7	These Truths, A History of the United States.
1:11.1	And this America, the case for the nation,
1:14.1	we want to hear about her case for the nation right now,
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