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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Instagram CEO Kevin Systrom in 2017

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2018

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Instagram co-founders Kevin Systrom and Mike Krieger are resigning from the company, six years after Facebook bought it for $1 billion. Recode reports that they had grown "increasingly frustrated and agitated with [Facebook CEO Mark] Zuckerberg and Facebook’s increased influence over the app." Here's a bonus episode of Recode Decode — Kara Swisher's interview with then-CEO Systrom from June 2017 — in which he talks at length about why he and Krieger did not leave soon after the acquisition. The episode's original summary is below... *** Instagram CEO and co-founder Kevin Systrom talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about why he's still working at Facebook five years after it bought his company for $1 billion. Systrom shares what he has learned from the executives there and why he insisted from day one that his new colleagues not call Instagram a "photo-sharing app" — which surprised Mark Zuckerberg. He also addresses allegations that Instagram has "copied" features from Snapchat, saying no tech product is completely original and that it's better for consumers if companies in the same space are constantly trying to one-up each other. Later in the show, Systrom explains why he feels personally responsible to make the internet a safer place, and what he's doing toward that goal. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Support for this podcast comes from Unisys.

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Sometimes you'll hear people say,

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get your head out of the clouds.

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They say, keep your head in the clouds.

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Keep dreaming and keep breaking through

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It's just the beginning of unlimited potential.

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It's the place where one breakthrough leads to another.

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Unisys, keep breaking through.

1:00.0

Recode Radio presents Recode Decode,

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coming to you from the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, executive editor of Recode.

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You may know me as the only person Donald Trump didn't ask to stop the Russian investigations,

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but in my spare time I talk tech and you're listening to Recode Decode,

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a podcast about tech and media's key players, big ideas, and how they're changing the world we live in.

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You can find more episodes of Recode Decode anywhere you listen to podcasts.

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