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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2019

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Carly Fiorina, the former CEO of HP who ran for the Republican nomination for president in 2016, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about campaigning against Donald Trump, her friendship with Apple co-founder Steve Jobs, and the over-concentration of power among a handful of CEOs in the tech industry. Fiorina also talks about her experience as one of the few female tech CEOs of the 1990s, the “lasting damage” President Trump has done to the Republican Party, and why she's impressed by Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi's handling of the impeachment inquiry. Plus: What did Steve Jobs get right that Mark Zuckerberg has not? Featuring: Carly Fiorina (@CarlyFiorina), author of Find Your Way and host of the leadership podcast By Example Hosts: Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large More to explore: Subscribe for free to Pivot, Kara’s podcast with NYU Professor Scott Galloway that offer sharp, unfiltered insights into the biggest stories in tech, business, and politics. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Follow Us: Newsletter: Recode Daily Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom ... But enough about us We are conducting an audience survey to better serve you. It takes no more than five minutes, and it really helps out the show. Please take our survey here: www.voxmedia.com/podsurvey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-at-large of Recode.

0:03.6

You may know me as someone who knows none of this would be happening in Carly Fierena

0:07.6

won the nomination in 2016, but in my spare time I talked tech and you're listening to

0:12.4

Recode Decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:15.7

Today in the red chair is of course Carly Fierena, the former CEO of HP and also a former

0:20.4

candidate for the Republican nomination for president back in the distant year of 2016.

0:26.7

Today she advises for profit businesses through her firm Carly Fierena Enterprises and

0:31.0

non-profits through a charitable foundation called Unlocking Potential.

0:35.1

She's also the best selling author of several books including most recently Find Your Way

0:38.8

and Host a Podcast called By Example.

0:41.6

Carly, welcome to Recode Decode.

0:43.6

Thank you so much.

0:44.6

It's great to be with you.

0:45.6

You were noting we have not seen each other since we wrangled on stage at all things D.

0:49.6

Yes, all things.

0:50.6

And 15 years ago.

0:51.6

Wow, it seems like it might be 10 to 15.

0:54.1

A long time ago.

0:55.2

Running, you have to remind me of how old I am all too, Carly.

0:59.4

So let's have a little bit about your backgrounds.

1:01.1

People who don't know you understand, you know, you had a long career in tech and was one

1:05.1

of the first significant CEO, women CEOs and I'm not going to focus just on them, but you

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